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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: jameswyhk on October 17, 2007, 11:58:20 am

Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: jameswyhk on October 17, 2007, 11:58:20 am
Why only airlines based in big cities can have extra 7 millions but the others can't? It is so unfair. Airlines based in big cities are growing much rapidly because they got 7 million when they started and they bought plane with the money. Day by day their value increases much faster. I think that every one deserves to have 7,000,000.
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: stimpy on October 17, 2007, 12:00:04 pm
what?
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: CornField on October 17, 2007, 12:02:20 pm
What?????

I started with 500,000 and a DC-3 just like you.
I'm based at ORD(roughly 77 mil pax a year), do airports get much bigger than that???????
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: dktc on October 17, 2007, 12:02:56 pm
Please be more specific. We have no idea what you are talking about :? (and this sounds important :? )
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Jps on October 17, 2007, 12:08:23 pm
He probably means bases?
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: hairways on October 17, 2007, 12:09:58 pm
Quote
Why only airlines based in big cities can have extra 7 millions but the others can't? It is so unfair. Airlines based in big cities are growing much rapidly because they got 7 million when they started and they bought plane with the money. Day by day their value increases much faster. I think that every one deserves to have 7,000,000.

Have a look at this forum jameswyhk
This could be what you are talking about!!
http://www.stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2405&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: dktc on October 17, 2007, 12:12:32 pm
I understand your hatre of the "unfair advantage" brokers have in your opinion, Alan. However, I don't see anything specifically related to "7 million" (as in cash) or "big airports" in that topic.

James, please illustrate.
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: blue25 on October 17, 2007, 12:14:40 pm
I think he means that people that start in big cities make money faster. I think this is unfair, but it's how the game is :roll:
Anyway, I think that's what he's saying.
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: MrOrange on October 17, 2007, 12:19:50 pm
Quote from: "blue25"
I think he means that people that start in big cities make money faster. I think this is unfair, but it's how the game is :roll:
Anyway, I think that's what he's saying.


Erm, that's how life is. Get over it :wink:
Title: Re: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 17, 2007, 12:26:07 pm
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Why only airlines based in big cities can have extra 7 millions but the others can't? It is so unfair. Airlines based in big cities are growing much rapidly because they got 7 million when they started and they bought plane with the money. Day by day their value increases much faster. I think that every one deserves to have 7,000,000.


Sorry, but I don't quite get ya. I started at Paris Charles de Gaulle and I didn't get any extra cash. Not a cent. The only advantage that I got was that I had the competition of 5 or 6 0.5-airlines, especially on my Frankfurt&London routes.
I have to admit: That was a heck of an advantage over you :roll:
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: MrOrange on October 17, 2007, 12:28:50 pm
Yes indeed! Competition, especially a large number of competing airlines, can be great fun! It will cost you at least 10% of your DOP, not to mention it will be harder to find niches in other airlines' route planning. Being based at a large airport is good for everyone.



  :roll:
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Jps on October 17, 2007, 12:31:31 pm
Quote from: "MrOrange"
Yes indeed! Competition, especially a large number of competing airlines, can be great fun! It will cost you at least 10% of your DOP, not to mention it will be harder to find niches in other airlines' route planning. Being based at a large airport is good for everyone.



  :roll:


 :lol: .. Also.. if your looking more DC-3's needed...

Edit: i meant to say.. If you base at small ones you still get profit.. like GRU im basing on
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Scandalian Airlines on October 17, 2007, 12:34:04 pm
Only advantage I can see, apart from getting higher income from flights to smaller airports than I do, is that you get a high cost base "for free" as it will cost several millions for me to start a base at CDG compared to NYO where I started. But that's a choice I made, no one forced me to start at a small airport...
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 17, 2007, 12:35:14 pm
Quote from: "Jps"
Quote from: "MrOrange"
Yes indeed! Competition, especially a large number of competing airlines, can be great fun! It will cost you at least 10% of your DOP, not to mention it will be harder to find niches in other airlines' route planning. Being based at a large airport is good for everyone.



  :roll:


 :lol: .. Also.. if your looking more DC-3's needed...

???
You don't get more DC3's because of that... 'cept for the ones which compete with you...
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Dora on October 17, 2007, 12:38:53 pm
You cannot imagine the number of competitors growing. And profits of particular routes will go down very fast because of competition.
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: ALFC on October 17, 2007, 12:57:15 pm
i said it before, i will say it again:

do not base out of a big airport, unless you KNOW you can anihilate anyone trying to enter the market.
airports of the 200k rent range are perfect spots for a good operation, since you will find little competition while making perfectly sound profits
Title: Re: Unfair 7millions
Post by: fatcow123 on October 17, 2007, 02:45:25 pm
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Why only airlines based in big cities can have extra 7 millions but the others can't? It is so unfair. Airlines based in big cities are growing much rapidly because they got 7 million when they started and they bought plane with the money. Day by day their value increases much faster. I think that every one deserves to have 7,000,000.


7M more? is there?

oh btw, just wanna ask that is wyhk in your id represent a school?
Title: Re: Unfair 7millions
Post by: jameswyhk on October 17, 2007, 03:00:23 pm
Quote from: "fatcow123"
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Why only airlines based in big cities can have extra 7 millions but the others can't? It is so unfair. Airlines based in big cities are growing much rapidly because they got 7 million when they started and they bought plane with the money. Day by day their value increases much faster. I think that every one deserves to have 7,000,000.


7M more? is there?

oh btw, just wanna ask that is wyhk in your id represent a school?

Stephen said that players based in big cities can have extra 7,000,000. I saw some airlines' values are 7000000 more at the beginning.
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Pacific on October 17, 2007, 03:01:15 pm
Where did stephen say so? :S
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Jps on October 17, 2007, 03:03:44 pm
Quote from: "Pacific"
Where did stephen say so? :S


Yea when? I look through all the threads everyday.. I never saw a post about "7m awarded to players"
Title: Re: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Daemonfly on October 17, 2007, 03:07:53 pm
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Quote from: "fatcow123"
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Why only airlines based in big cities can have extra 7 millions but the others can't? It is so unfair. Airlines based in big cities are growing much rapidly because they got 7 million when they started and they bought plane with the money. Day by day their value increases much faster. I think that every one deserves to have 7,000,000.


7M more? is there?

oh btw, just wanna ask that is wyhk in your id represent a school?

Stephen said that players based in big cities can have extra 7,000,000. I saw some airlines' values are 7000000 more at the beginning.




 :lol:
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Jps on October 17, 2007, 03:15:51 pm
Totally spam above me.. see why i dont spam...

If im correct you don't get 7m.. or whatever
Title: Unfair 7millions
Post by: dktc on October 17, 2007, 03:17:48 pm
I think what Stephen meant was you could get an extra of up to 700,000 in value if you base in one of the top 8 airports in the game, because of the two free gates given. However, you still get a boost of 100,000 if you base in an airport with only 50 gates.
Title: Re: Unfair 7millions
Post by: StephenM on October 17, 2007, 04:34:24 pm
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Stephen said that players based in big cities can have extra 7,000,000. I saw some airlines' values are 7000000 more at the beginning.


Can you show me where you are quoting from?
Title: Re: Unfair 7millions
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 17, 2007, 06:37:46 pm
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Quote from: "fatcow123"
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
Why only airlines based in big cities can have extra 7 millions but the others can't? It is so unfair. Airlines based in big cities are growing much rapidly because they got 7 million when they started and they bought plane with the money. Day by day their value increases much faster. I think that every one deserves to have 7,000,000.


7M more? is there?

oh btw, just wanna ask that is wyhk in your id represent a school?

Stephen said that players based in big cities can have extra 7,000,000. I saw some airlines' values are 7000000 more at the beginning.

 :?:
I would have known, you can trust me there (at least if it was in the open part of this forum). It seems that you pretty much have turned and twisted stephens comment about the gate value 'til it fitted you... not the nicest thing to do (to stephen& to the guys you're accusing of having unfair advantages)