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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 07:01:55 am

Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 07:01:55 am
Since dktc was so kind to lock the rules thread, just brilliant! :lol:

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How do you know nothing has been done about Iguana and the others' sigs?


Well obviously you can still see the signatures. Duh. They're still VISIBLE.

Stephen said he sent Iguana a PM and no response.  That is also how I know. That was 2 days ago.  In less than 24 hours Stephen manualy deleted my signature which is in compliance with the forum rules. Because of these inconsistent double standards I chose to air my grievances. Instead of getting a rational response from a responsible moderator I get your highly defensive and abusive response.

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Do you have access to Stephen's and all other staff members' mailboxes?


Completely irrelevant.  Stephen already said he tried to reach Iguana and no response. So Iguana's non compliant signature stays, among many others?  Ok just ignore moderator PMs and nothing will be done. Note to moderators: Just delete the non-compliant signatures. StephenM obviously knows how.

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No? Then why the **** are you running your month off?


Language!

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Grow up. Be mature. Follow the rules.


First of all I'm older than you so have some respect! Second I am following forum rules.
 
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Stop making unsound accusations, esp. ones towards our staff members.


How about instead of throwing a hissy fit you start enforcing your own forum rules?  Locking the rules thread was classic.

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edit: btw, you forgot to mention the possibility of account suspension, both in game and in forum.


Is that a threat? Talk about petty.

So really. A big round of applause to the classy moderators!
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 09:24:25 am
Well since StephenM chooses to reply in a locked thread so I can't reply and refute his false claim.  

He claims my siggy was not in compliance.

This is a screenshot of StephenM's Private Message:
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8056/proofuo5.jpg)

as you can see and verify on your own, this was my signature banner, which he includes a link to in his PM:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5135/hooterssigfq9su9xw2.jpg

Exactly 1024x125
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: StephenM on October 11, 2007, 09:27:55 am
Ok then. You've got me there. I must be seeing things.  :? Reinstate the signature if you will. And sorry about that.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 09:32:08 am
Stephen can you include width limits on signatures as well?

Just edit the forum rules thread. Maybe 460x125 max?

This is what I do on my forum.  Instead of wasting time sending PMs, then being ignored anyway I just edit the offending members signature with this

(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5395/police04iq5.gif)
Signatures may be a maximum of 480x100 pixels, and no larger than 30kb in size. Max. 2 lines of text. Refer to http://blahblah.showtopic=21690 for more details.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Jps on October 11, 2007, 10:02:21 am
No 550px please.. see my sig.. its not that bad
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: StephenM on October 11, 2007, 10:03:20 am
We'll go for 600 then. It should be ok.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 11, 2007, 11:31:42 am
@Juancho,

I guess i would apologize for you not having earned my respect; I would apologize for you being older than I am but behaving otherwise; I would apologize not letting you know about every single email/pm I sent out regarding broken rules; and I apologize for reacting to your completely unfound accusation to the AM-team :roll:
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Daemonfly on October 11, 2007, 11:51:53 am
The AM-Team.

Is that like the A-Team?

Do you guys have a sweet AM van?  (pics?)

 :D
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Jps on October 11, 2007, 11:54:33 am
I don't think Stephen owns a "AM" van.. because his staffs are from all around the world.. including Hong Kong.. Texas.. Dublin
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 12:31:25 pm
@dktc

Quote from: "dktc"
@Juancho,

I guess i would apologize for you not having earned my respect; I would apologize for you being older than I am but behaving otherwise; I would apologize not letting you know about every single email/pm I sent out regarding broken rules; and I apologize for reacting to your completely unfound accusation to the AM-team :roll:


I guess I would call you a smartass troll moderator but I won't. You're obviously missing a few upstairs. Total waste of time.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 11, 2007, 12:56:13 pm
Behind every smartasses, there are reasons and circumstances. If the circumstances were not created for them, they could do nothing.

Regarding the waste of time, let's just say that I have 2+ years of real life rule enforcement experiences, and leave it as that. You could go around every corner and bring about all distractions that you could, but to us, it is always back to the same place (what you really did).
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 01:48:24 pm
Was that an admission that you're missing a few upstairs? That response was worded so poorly it might as well be Chinese. :shock:

Here's what I propose & this is truly a novel idea. English should be the native language for any moderator on this forum since English is the primary language used on this forum.

So dktc and your A-team, let me show you what a good job you're doing as a forum moderator.

Note: all the following siggies are in violation of your forum rules. Apparently you missed these with your smug AE attitude.

(http://www.stephenm.org/RickL/TexasSigcopy.jpg)

(http://www.hairways.ie/images/aircraft.jpg)

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4172/67236475ei1.png)

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6228/qatarairwayslogoamji8.png)

(http://www.freewebs.com/bendailey1981/World%20Elite%20Logo.jpg)

(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd100/tzeqin_bucket/HA.jpg)

It took me about 5 minutes to find these signature banners.

The kicker is one of these siggies belongs to AM staff which you so readily defend, rather blindly, instead of listening to valid points.

Those 2 years of moderating experience really show :lol:
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 11, 2007, 02:07:44 pm
Quote from: "juancho"

Here's what I propose & this is truly a novel idea. English should be the native language for any moderator on this forum since English is the primary language used on this forum.

And why should that rule be made up? I think you're just trying to find some reasons to blame dktc for your bad mood. Just go outside, smoke a cig and calm down...
'cause at the moment you are replacing your arguments by insults (which isn't smart while talking to an admin)
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Jps on October 11, 2007, 02:13:44 pm
Smoking is bad for your health  :D
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 11, 2007, 02:26:41 pm
Quote from: "Blue Sky Mine"
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'cause at the moment you are replacing your arguments by insults (which isn't smart while talking to an admin)


Not only "at the moment" :wink:
He has been doing that for a while in quite some posts.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 11, 2007, 02:36:14 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "Blue Sky Mine"
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'cause at the moment you are replacing your arguments by insults (which isn't smart while talking to an admin)


Not only "at the moment" :wink:
He has been doing that for a while in quite some posts.


I was trying to say that in a polite way...
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 02:39:07 pm
I don't use insults. Only facts supported by evidence. :wink:
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: FWA2500 on October 11, 2007, 03:49:51 pm
and having the thread originally titled "Coward moderators" isnt an insult?
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3089/cowardmods1gk3.th.jpg) (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cowardmods1gk3.jpg)
Title: Re: Moderator double standards
Post by: Armygrognard on October 11, 2007, 09:58:34 pm
Quote from: "juancho"


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Grow up. Be mature. Follow the rules.


First of all I'm older than you so have some respect! Second I am following forum rules.
 


I'm older than probably anyone - 48 - and I'm here to tell you:  age does NOT automatically grant respect, especially in forums.  It's actions.

'Nuff said.

 8)
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: MrOrange on October 11, 2007, 11:33:30 pm
Quote from: "FWA2500"
and having the thread originally titled "Coward moderators" isnt an insult?
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3089/cowardmods1gk3.th.jpg) (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cowardmods1gk3.jpg)


Ouch. Besides, you (meaning juancho) didn't follow forum rules either, with your initial 175px signature.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 12, 2007, 12:55:58 am
Actually OrangeAir my initial signature which you know very well was in compliance with forum rules at 468x60.

I increased it to an obnoxious size equal to Iguanas to make a point. I'm guilty as charged, my signature was in violation of furum rules. That was the point, genious. Iguanas signature banner was manually removed by the moderators, so in the end I was right and action was taken as should have happened in the first place.

Trigger happy thread locking is cowardly, more so when the final statement is flat out wrong, as I prove in the initial part of this thread. And that's a fact. :wink:
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 12, 2007, 01:06:51 am
Quote from: "juancho"
Trigger happy thread locking is cowardly, more so when the final statement is flat out wrong, as I prove in the initial part of this thread. And that's a fact. :wink:


Peace seeking = cowardly. I believe my friends would rofltao.

And yes, I am being coward again, because I don't want to debate with you anymore.
Now that the situation has been resolved according to your "evidence" and I have admitted I am a coward, this thread has served its propose. :roll:

oh, and everythings are open to interpretation. If you want to intrepret this as Chinese, or a threat, or a smartass comment, feel free. (For the record, I am smart in the view of the modern society under its values and norm, as shown by several standardized tests, and that I could be an ass sometimes. So, I could admit to being a smartass as well, if that makes you happy.)
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 12, 2007, 01:35:22 am
Due to a request by Juancho, this thread is unlocked. Continue to mock me if you want.

Quote from: "juancho"
dktc = Peace seeking. I am roflmao.

No reason to lock that thread. See this is what you do dktc. You lock a forum thread because you don't like a response. That's not a reason to lock a thread. Then you dodge the issue entirely.

Locking threads is definitely not peace keeping, its passive aggresive. By doing that it only shows that you can't handle it with logic and words. So you resort to a petty action of locking a thread that is not in violation of any forum rules.

BTW good job deleting Iguanas signature.


oh, and I am too useless to delete Iguana's sig.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: blue25 on October 12, 2007, 01:52:50 am
Quote from: "dktc"
Due to a request by Juancho, this thread is unlocked. Continue to mock me if you want.

Quote from: "juancho"
dktc = Peace seeking. I am roflmao.

No reason to lock that thread. See this is what you do dktc. You lock a forum thread because you don't like a response. That's not a reason to lock a thread. Then you dodge the issue entirely.

Locking threads is definitely not peace keeping, its passive aggresive. By doing that it only shows that you can't handle it with logic and words. So you resort to a petty action of locking a thread that is not in violation of any forum rules.

BTW good job deleting Iguanas signature.


oh, and I am too useless to delete Iguana's sig.

You're not useless :roll:
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 12, 2007, 01:55:45 am
We love you dktc! :D
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 12, 2007, 01:59:50 am
Quote from: "juancho"
We love you dktc! :D


I hate people lying. :x
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 12, 2007, 02:03:40 am
Like water under the bridge. :P
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: blue25 on October 12, 2007, 02:53:23 am
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "juancho"
We love you dktc! :D


I hate people lying. :x

I like getting planes from you :D
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 12, 2007, 07:49:02 am
Quote from: "blue25"
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "juancho"
We love you dktc! :D


I hate people lying. :x

I like getting planes from you :D

But we do respect your work

well, most of us do :roll:
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: Jps on October 12, 2007, 07:54:32 am
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well, most of us do :roll:


^ Most of us meaning me too  :D
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 12, 2007, 07:55:33 am
Yeah. Me to, you're doing a good job mate.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 12, 2007, 12:22:56 pm
Quote from: "juancho"
Yeah. Me to, you're doing a good job mate.


Stop lying out of your breath. Have some dignity and honour. No wonder I don't respect you :roll:
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 12, 2007, 12:44:26 pm
How about you stop accusing me of lying. OK? You obviously carry a grudge so how about you knock it off?
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: dktc on October 12, 2007, 12:50:34 pm
Quote from: "juancho"
How about you stop accusing me of lying. OK? You obviously carry a grudge so how about you knock it off?


I don't believe it is an accusation. I am just stating a fact. Look back to the start of this thread, and some others, no one would believe you like me and what I do. (oh... right, I am too useless to do anything)

If you want to mock me, belittle me, or scream at me, feel free. I am over that. But then, if you act one thing and say the opposite, we need to clarify it.
Title: Moderator double standards
Post by: juancho on October 12, 2007, 12:55:20 pm
I love you man. :mrgreen: