Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: ALFC on September 24, 2007, 10:23:32 pm
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hi, i noticed it in the past RL week, the european market is getting VERY competetive on many hubs, you have bigger airlines chopping routes with high frequency connections at prices of under 50, leased plane airlines struggling for survival trying to make a living against people with diversified route networks who can afford to basically 1€ a route just to cut the competition out. it is a very nice game right now, sad the round is over so soon, otherwise we would certainly see alot of bankrupt and market consolidation in europe.
how is it in usa or asia?
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North America has been that way for about 2 game years..
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Yeah. I remember when Cornfield and I competed ATW-MCI. You remember that? Now there are no gets at either left (fortunately at ATW I have 5 built gates.
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Asia? :lol: You need to ask? :lol:
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North America has been that way for about 2 game years..
my impression was that the terminal building increased the normal competition tenfold in europe, so i assume it has been like this in other places aswell: players have cash but no gates to expand, with the terminals, this was possible hence a huge competition increase.
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It's been like that in the top places in Europe for the past 2 months real time.
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normally I fix 2 under 25% load routes average per day, now I got 5 or 6 everyday, I gave up, beacuse there´s no point with the game ending so soon
latinamerica
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It's probably like that for everyone currently.
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hi, i noticed it in the past RL week, the european market is getting VERY competetive on many hubs, you have bigger airlines chopping routes with high frequency connections at prices of under 50, leased plane airlines struggling for survival trying to make a living against people with diversified route networks who can afford to basically 1€ a route just to cut the competition out. it is a very nice game right now, sad the round is over so soon, otherwise we would certainly see alot of bankrupt and market consolidation in europe.
how is it in usa or asia?
Well, can't help that. I didn't start most fires. But I can't let other people bash me out of my hubs!
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Some airlines just need to focus on smaller non-saturated routes instead of basing in Frankfurt. And in this case, I think the terminal function essentially K.O.'ed about 10% of the airlines currently in the game, just because all big airlines can build terminals for a way too low amount of money, which they'll mostly earn back in less than one hour. It ruins the game for the new players, who don't have a chance at all to survive, even if they base in a small airport, because everyone is already flying to that airport at €1 per flight.
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I started only 6 days ago in a small airport, I have a fleet of over 25 aircraft, including 767s and 777s and have already opened up a new base.
Small airports can still make money.
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It's like the real world eh?
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I started only 6 days ago in a small airport, I have a fleet of over 25 aircraft, including 767s and 777s and have already opened up a new base.
Small airports can still make money.
Lol true.. restarted yesterday
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Some airlines just need to focus on smaller non-saturated routes instead of basing in Frankfurt. And in this case, I think the terminal function essentially K.O.'ed about 10% of the airlines currently in the game, just because all big airlines can build terminals for a way too low amount of money, which they'll mostly earn back in less than one hour. It ruins the game for the new players, who don't have a chance at all to survive, even if they base in a small airport, because everyone is already flying to that airport at €1 per flight.
Agree on what you say about flying on smaller, non-saturated routes. If a airline does these, they have a better chance of survival, if they base themselves out of a smaller airport and fly to as many small towns that most everyone else seems to have ignored, they can actually make a decent profit, depending on the plane they use, Granted, it might be something between 8K and 30K (depending on many variables), but it still can make you some good profit if you planned it out right. Of course, the LF script is a bit out of wack as it is right now, so 100% LFs can be destroyed easily to like 50% by undercutting by 1 cent.
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I started only 6 days ago in a small airport, I have a fleet of over 25 aircraft, including 767s and 777s and have already opened up a new base.
Small airports can still make money.
Big aírports can still give you a lot of money. Not as your first base though!
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prices are killing me in north america...
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bah stop moaning
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This isn't communism, this is the dictatorship of money. If you can't serve a route economically and can't afford to loose money, you gotta quit it.
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This isn't communism, this is the dictatorship of money. If you can't serve a route economically and can't afford to loose money, you gotta quit it.
Well, even in communism economics will step in if it is seen as too unreasonable. Otherwise many things that didn't become big in communist countries for that reason would be in around today. But either way, its a change of equipment needed or just cutting it (and if you're smart, you can figure out how to make back what you lost from it too.)
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Yeah. I remember when Cornfield and I competed ATW-MCI. You remember that? Now there are no gets at either left (fortunately at ATW I have 5 built gates.
You got taught a lesson in AM-economics. Nothing more.
I've been in idle for the last game year.
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Can I go back to MCI? There's some hefty profits waiting there.