Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: crcole on September 10, 2007, 05:35:27 am
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: crcole on September 10, 2007, 05:35:27 am
AM is becoming more like the real world. Airports and routes are becoming so crowded and fares are being set so low several of my routes have been reduced to well below costs. And frequencies so high are making a profit let alone sustaining growth is becoming impossible. As with real world CEO's/CFO's I spend most of my time lowering prices to regain market share instead of developing new routings or even replacing and renewing my aircraft assignments.
A few carriers operating far below costs have "taken the fun away" . But that mirrors the real world of of airline operations.
I am looking forward to beginning the new round and placing the lessons I've learned into practice. While on even footing.
For those operators who run realistic airlines with routes with realistic pricing. Thanks for the competition, I enjoy and respect you.
Those who are not serious and don't play in a realistic fashion ...shame on you.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Jps on September 10, 2007, 11:01:36 am
Well DONT complain... and isn't this game suppose to simulate the real world?
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: dktc on September 10, 2007, 11:17:11 am
No it isn't supposed to sim the real world. This is a game.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Jps on September 10, 2007, 11:23:25 am
Quote from: "dktc"
No it isn't supposed to sim the real world. This is a game.
Oh wow... then why does the front page say that..
"Airline Mogul is an online airline simulation, classed as a Massive Multiplayer Online Game (MMOG). It is made by a team of people with an interest to make an online game which will be among the best of its type. Players create airlines, afterwards they buy gates and planes, create routes, join alliances, and compete with each other in a highly competitive world based game, that runs 24 hours a day. Airline Mogul has a combination of some of the best features from other airline management games, aswell as its own distinct features using a bright and clean look to deliver the best experience possible."
Edit for Dktc: Not making another post: but still... simulation is on the first sentence
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: StephenM on September 10, 2007, 11:23:53 am
We can gradually introduce more realistic features. Now that I think of it, I'd say we should add in taxi time...
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: dktc on September 10, 2007, 11:24:40 am
I see "simulation" once, but "game" 4 times in that paragraph.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: dktc on September 10, 2007, 11:25:26 am
Quote from: "StephenM"
We can gradually introduce more realistic features. Now that I think of it, I'd say we should add in taxi time...
[EDIT - Daniel D.: Don't be saying that now]
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Jps on September 10, 2007, 11:26:50 am
That would make a smaller airline go bankrupt with all the plane leasing and gate rentals... wouldnt it?
Dktc.. read my first post :D
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: gizgiz on September 10, 2007, 12:46:35 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "StephenM"
We can gradually introduce more realistic features. Now that I think of it, I'd say we should add in taxi time...
[Quote Removed: Daniel D.]
[EDIT - Daniel D.: Result of dktc]
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: crcole on September 10, 2007, 02:18:20 pm
Quote from: "Jps"
Well DONT complain... and isn't this game suppose to simulate the real world?
Of course it is that's what makes it good. I am NOT complaining about the game itself. I am complaining about market forces.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Jps on September 10, 2007, 02:24:27 pm
Quote from: "crcole"
Quote from: "Jps"
Well DONT complain... and isn't this game suppose to simulate the real world?
Of course it is that's what makes it good. I am NOT complaining about the game itself. I am complaining about market forces.
Still... your still complaining..
But of course agreed... if you were based in Asia it would be chaos.. and i think admins are trying to resolve the problem? Yea so :D just avoid them?
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: crcole on September 10, 2007, 02:41:42 pm
Quote from: "Jps"
Quote from: "crcole"
Quote from: "Jps"
Well DONT complain... and isn't this game suppose to simulate the real world?
Of course it is that's what makes it good. I am NOT complaining about the game itself. I am complaining about market forces.
Still... your still complaining..
But of course agreed... if you were based in Asia it would be chaos.. and i think admins are trying to resolve the problem? Yea so :D just avoid them?
The "complaint" is no more or no less than an observation that mirrors that of real world airline operations. It is the same in the real world except that here there are no stock holders to answer to. Unrealistic operations in the game or real world have caused the industry to adapt ( as I am attempting here ) or wither and die. My point is simply that here as in the real world those who operate in a financially irresponsible manner take the fun out of things.
Shame on those here and real world who operate unrealistically.
As for the accusation of complaining. I did no finger pointing nor did I ask for any action, sanctions nor changes. Just noting an interesting part of the game.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: pTr on September 10, 2007, 02:59:06 pm
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It is the same in the real world except that here there are no stock holders to answer to.
oh ya.. by the way.. what happened to the stock market we were told about at the beginning of this round? I mean.. with almost all the larger airports at maximum capacity, people should have a way to divert their risk, or somehow buy out other companies(For example, when your airline gets bought, then you are allowed to start a new airline with the cash)
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: StephenM on September 10, 2007, 03:35:07 pm
Quote from: "pTr"
what happened to the stock market we were told about at the beginning of this round?
Can you direct me to the post?
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on September 10, 2007, 07:03:33 pm
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Oh wow... then why does the front page say that..
Well, does anybody read the frontpage anyway?
[EDIT - Daniel D.: How about no]
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: dktc on September 10, 2007, 07:06:28 pm
Quote from: "Blue Sky Mine"
[Quote Removed - Daniel D.]
If you pay me more than Stephen does :twisted: (which means more than 0 :lol: )
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on September 10, 2007, 07:08:36 pm
You can get 1 Eurocent if you come to Germany and pick it up :P
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: dktc on September 10, 2007, 07:20:32 pm
Quote from: "Blue Sky Mine"
You can get 1 Eurocent if you come to Germany and pick it up :P
Only if you pay for my First Class flight ticket and my 6 star hotel accomodation :P
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on September 10, 2007, 07:47:39 pm
No thanks, I'd rather bribe Stephen himselve then... I could bribe you with a bottle of Einbecker Beer (very excellent!) though.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Daniel Doorgakant on September 10, 2007, 11:32:06 pm
dktc and Blue Sky Mine, you have brought up a subject which may offend some people. As a result I have removed your comments.
Just remember what day it is tommorow :(
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: pTr on September 11, 2007, 03:16:26 am
urgh.. dun think it was a post.. I think it was on a front page of the game.. or I could be mistaking.. just kinda remember something about the stock market somewhere..
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Air Elbonia on September 11, 2007, 05:04:53 am
Stock Market/Loans are a ways off, but in the future plans for the site.
might have been in the very tail end of "in the year 2000" where i just started rambling about the "if all goes well, who knows" possibilities.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: StephenM on September 11, 2007, 11:18:07 am
Yeah, it was on the front page but it was removed as it was never added when I updated that page.
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Armygrognard on September 11, 2007, 09:34:18 pm
Quote from: "Daniel Doorgakant"
dktc and Blue Sky Mine, you have brought up a subject which may offend some people. As a result I have removed your comments.
Just remember what day it is tommorow :(
Thank you. I know a few rescuers that went down in the towers.
:cry:
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on September 11, 2007, 10:05:42 pm
I'm sorry... Thank you for removing them, I just didn't think of it when I wrote the posts some days ago... but you're right, they might seem a little tasteless in connection with this date :oops:
Title: Mirroring the real world
Post by: Armygrognard on September 11, 2007, 10:08:44 pm
Quote from: "Blue Sky Mine"
I'm sorry... Thank you for removing them, I just didn't think of it when I wrote the posts some days ago... but you're right, they might seem a little tasteless in connection with this date :oops:
I didn't see the post, and I probably wouldn't have been offended, but appreciate it. From the the thread it doesn't sound as if it were malicious. And even if it were, everyone has the right to an opinion.