Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => Game News => Topic started by: dktc on September 07, 2007, 03:49:01 pm
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Due to the fact this kind of gate hogging routes still exist, the AM staff will start cracking down on the players with those routes very soon. The routes concerned will be closed and the gates will be returned. We expect all of you to coorperate with us and restructure your routes now.
The most up-to-date definition of gate hogging route is "Excessive frequencies that do not exist to operate in a competitive environment but to unfairly hold gates at a given airport". If there is competition, then it may be ok. However, if there is not much competition on the routes, or that if the routes is so short that it doesn't make sense, they are in.
And as per StephenM's gate hogging statement (http://stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1676), any multi-0.5 routes would be considered gate hogging as well.
Those that have received emails about it, we have given you quite sometime to restructure your routes, so don't complain this time. We have clearly stated that anymore more than 1 0.5 frequency on a route is not acceptable. Those that have never received any email or personal warnings, this is your warning. Next thing you receive may be a pm informing you what routes have been closed (we would send out a last warning with a deadline if we are kind... but that kind of depends on our mood :P ).
We don't want to close your routes or intervene with the game. However, if you force us to take actions, we will. Having said that, I highly encourage your all to take a serious look at your routes and restructure them if/when deemed appropriate. This time, I (as well as the admins) will be checking on you all. Take your own risk if you want to, but bare in mind there are consequences for every decisions you make.
And one more thing I can tell you; when I start looking, I will start from my beloved Asia. :wink:
I hope you all take this seriously (not that I care if you don't because I will), and clear up your act.
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Bravo
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Just to be clear... on Very Long Haul routes where only 0.5 frequencies are possible, are we not being allowed 2/3 0.5 frequencies now?
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Just to be clear... on Very Long Haul routes where only 0.5 frequencies are possible, are we not being allowed 2/3 0.5 frequencies now?
I don't recall anyone allowing that.
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And as per StephenM's gate hogging statement (http://stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1676), any multi-0.5 routes would be considered gate hogging as well.
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Well, typically these routes don't need too many seats... and if they do, just use a bigger ac.
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And else, bad luck.
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Note: I have begun clearing out the gate hogging routes.
Any routes that fall into either / both of these two categories;
- frequencies of higher than 5
- more than 1 0.5 frequency
will be deleted. I am feeling kind so I will be emailing active users and ask them to close the routes before the deadline I give them. For inactive users, too bad... your routes will be deleted promptly. :twisted:
As much as I am enjoying deleting your routes, please close them before I get to you. Any questions or problems, please pm me or email me at <daniel.chan@airlinemogul.com> . Please rest assured that you will have my personal attention if you have any gate hogging routes :twisted:
*edit: a couple of typo/spellings*
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clapping :lol:
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I know a certain unnamed airline that hogs all of the gates at New York area airports with multiple 90-frequency 30 mile flights between them, Maybe you should look into him. (It'll be obvious who. >_>)
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I know a certain unnamed airline that hogs all of the gates at New York area airports with multiple 90-frequency 30 mile flights between them, Maybe you should look into him. (It'll be obvious who. >_>)
I am going through the routes of each and every one of you (well... except the admins... gotta trust them right? :P )
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(well... except the admins... gotta trust them right? :P )
Nope... not the mods either (check urself out too!)
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(well... except the admins... gotta trust them right? :P )
Nope... not the mods either (check urself out too!)
You can go check me if you want. :roll:
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Nope... only If I need a plane. :D
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Thanks to the AM staff for cracking down on this issue. dktc, if your gonna start in Asia, make sure you take a look at TPE!
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finally a margin, I was concerned while researching when I´ve found a guy with a freq of 7 and wondering if that was legal or not
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Fine..
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Each user account is individually investigated. Please do not request a particular place to get special attention. All areas will be covered.
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Even the Plant Alliance? :lol:
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ok... so... as per our almighty creator (I mean the AM one... not the Earth one :roll: ), the limits are now double. ie. you all can have
- max of 10 frequencies between any two airports
- max of 2 0.5 frequencies per route
For all these inconveniences and confusion, I would not apologize. For making players with id under 738 close their routes that are now accepted, I would not apologize as well. Blame StephenM for it. Personally, I still think my previous standards are reasonable, but apparently, Stephen and Air Elbonia think they are too strict. So, this adjustment is made. And I repeat, I will not apologize for it because it is not my fault at all. Blame Stephen for it (that is all flames and complaints and emails with viruses should be sent to Stephen :lol: ).
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I think gate hogging becomes very serious in certain degree. In North America, nearly all cities with more than 10,000,000 population are all having "0" gates.
A suggestion: Would the program allow us to rent slots (not gates) from the alliance menber so that most gates can be used more effectively? it should be able to reduce the number of 0.5 flights and be more realistic to the real world
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ok... so... as per our almighty creator (I mean the AM one... not the Earth one :roll: ), the limits are now double. ie. you all can have
- max of 10 frequencies between any two airports
- max of 2 0.5 frequencies per route
For all these inconveniences and confusion, I would not apologize. For making players with id under 738 close their routes that are now accepted, I would not apologize as well. Blame StephenM for it. Personally, I still think my previous standards are reasonable, but apparently, Stephen and Air Elbonia think they are too strict. So, this adjustment is made. And I repeat, I will not apologize for it because it is not my fault at all. Blame Stephen for it (that is all flames and complaints and emails with viruses should be sent to Stephen :lol: ).
That means there can be 2 0.5 frequencies per routes?? just crazy!!... I'd have to be racing again..
oh well that means I will recreate 8 more routes :wink:
And I think one 0.5 frequency per route is better... if not people would be using the same plane then creating 2 0.5 frequencies to get more money and create more price wars
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- max of 2 0.5 frequencies per route
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I think I'll have to blame you for this, because you've delivered that message...
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I gave the instruction to allow a max of 0.5s per route. It was because on long hauls its understandable to have them but obviously its not ideal for short hauls. Remember 0.5s aren't gate hoggers, you need 10 of them to take any effect.
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*a certain airline*
id=*####*
I think he is don't care about
- frequencies of higher than 5
- more than 1 0.5 frequency
*edited by dktc: plz don't publicly accuse players*
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I've been wondering why it's so hard to get a gate anywhere near New York.
(Flights Departing EWR)
***222353 New York JFK 80.5
***222356 New York JFK 84.5
***222349 New York JFK 26
***222345 New York JFK 57
***222329 New York JFK 84.5
***222390 New York La Guardia 91
***222382 New York La Guardia 95.5
***222367 New York La Guardia 91
***222399 New York La Guardia 95.5
***222393 New York La Guardia 91
***222362 New York La Guardia 91
***222366 New York La Guardia 91
***222648 New York La Guardia 82
***222373 New York La Guardia 91
***269343 Oporto International (Carneiro 0.5
***222296 Philadelphia 32.5
***222312 Philadelphia 32.5
***222303 Philadelphia 32.5
***222299 Philadelphia 32.5
***222314 Philadelphia 28
***222271 Philadelphia 19
***222319 Philadelphia 20.5
***292413 Point-a-Pitre Le Raizet Intern 0.5
***261556 San Antonio 0.5
***244374 San Jose - Juan Santamaria Air 0.5
***240672 Tampa 1.5
***283792 Venice Marco Polo 0.5
***222733 Westchester- White Plains 59.5
***222738 Westchester- White Plains 59.5
***222729 Westchester- White Plains 59.5
***222732 Westchester- White Plains 41
***222741 Westchester- White Plains 36
***245997 Wrocław 0.5
*edited by dktc: plz don't publicly accuse other players.*
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Shut *that airline* down! He competes with pretty much everybody. There is a similar situation happening somewhere else on a different sim (I won't mention it).
*edited by dktc: plz don't publicly accuse other players.*
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deleted content to not accuse people
*from dktc: thx for editing your own post :D *
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Whaaaaaaaaaa? :?
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AH... yes. I have forgotten this airline totally. I am going through player's id and I am only up to 14xx (roughly 1/3 of the players) at the moment. I will give a warning to that airline concerned though.
Please stop accusing people in the forum. PM me or email me @ <daniel.chan@airlinemogul.com>. People who have done so would tell you that I do respond to those messages.