Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: newports01 on September 05, 2007, 03:54:04 am
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when everytime i create a route TIVA South creates 1 and makes tickets like 13 dollars... can anything be done about this?
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Mooooooved to General Game Chat
It's a normal part of the game. You just have to deal with it.
(Note; Stephen, maybe it'd be an idea to rename them to General non-game chat & General Game Chat)
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dosent seem fair to me..
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The problem is, as the game's so far advanced, there'll be a lot of other airlines on routes.
The next reset though, is in 28 (or so) real days, so I'd suggest to stick it out.
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dosent seem fair to me..
What is the definition of fair??
You can do something but other players can't?
It seems perfectly fair to me as in you and the other player have equal chance to develop your routes, using the resources you have. You have equal opportunity to do everything the others do. If it is a matter of cash, it is just because you don't have enough cash yet, not because you are forbidden to do that thing. So, it is fair.
And you know what is not fair? When people play the game fair and got complained about it.
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to be honest.. the person above me doesn't know what's fair to new players when the game reached a lot of players
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Keep it down guys... :?
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to be honest.. the person above me doesn't know what's fair to new players when the game reached a lot of players
I guess the thing is you guys focus on "new players", which in itself is a bias. Fair does not necessarily equal to playable or sustainable. You guys are looking at how new players could do well (with help, by putting down existing players), not whether it is fair.
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Fairness comes at a price, lets hope it doesn't cost too much
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oh, it costs too much, which is why the world is not fair.
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oh, it costs too much, which is why the world is not fair.
Neither the world or life are fair, but then again if it was it would be a pretty boring existance we would all have.
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The reason TEVA South is making the cheap routes is because they want you off their turf. They have a lot more money than you do, so I reccomend doing as they wish.
Find a nice little airport where no other airlines have created a base. It'll have to be a very small airport (around 1 million passengers), but if you create a base there and fly routes that nobody else is flying you should be able to survive.
This sort of behavior happens in real life. Look what United Airlines did to Independence Air at Dulles.
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The reason TEVA South is making the cheap routes is because they want you off their turf. They have a lot more money than you do, so I reccomend doing as they wish.
Find a nice little airport where no other airlines have created a base. It'll have to be a very small airport (around 1 million passengers), but if you create a base there and fly routes that nobody else is flying you should be able to survive.
This sort of behavior happens in real life. Look what United Airlines did to Independence Air at Dulles.
I agree with max on this one. Do you really think that an airline like TEVA should just sit around and watch all his profitable routes crash just so new players can have some money. I know how TEVA feels because I was forced to go after another airline that tried to attack my small hub with cheap routes. In addition, I have experienced the TEVA wrath and managed to find a way around it, so instead of complaining take Max's advice and work towards winning and do less complaining then maybe you could build up you airline. This stuff really happens take a look at the Hawaiian price war with their 3 carriers.
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The above will work the best for small airlines. Don´t, just don´t, hub a large airport with 4 or more rich, established airlines, because they will take you out. Go to the smaller airports and you might have to start a bit slower, but you will also be in less danger of choking. Good advice.
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TEVA.. is that the full name? you guys got me interested.. but I can't find the airline... :?
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pTr, TEVA South lol Pretty big airline...
Anyways... I have to race with 4 major airlines :( Think Airlines, Iguana (top in South America), Pro Air, Caribbean Air and... I also have to avoid Viasa - Venezolana de Aviación because he/she is in my alliance.. and he/she is top 2 in South America... Basically, they got all the regional routes... Very Long-haul is my only choice :( oh wait Iguana operates A LOT of very long haul flights, the airline even reached the Middle East :shock:
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TEVA South. He´s in the rankings :)
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Competition is the name of this game... If you don't like it, do as suggested, set up your airline somewhere small. Any of the major markets will have at least one if not more aggressive airlines at them. TEVA South is actually pretty tame compared to some... like Alpha Air :twisted:
And i've become much MORE aggressive since a couple startups out of BOS really hurt me and i didn't respond to them fast enough... So in other words if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
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The reason TEVA South is making the cheap routes is because they want you off their turf. They have a lot more money than you do, so I reccomend doing as they wish.
Find a nice little airport where no other airlines have created a base. It'll have to be a very small airport (around 1 million passengers), but if you create a base there and fly routes that nobody else is flying you should be able to survive.
This sort of behavior happens in real life. Look what United Airlines did to Independence Air at Dulles.
and how am i saposed to do this when im 6 million in the hole and cant make any money??
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The reason TEVA South is making the cheap routes is because they want you off their turf. They have a lot more money than you do, so I reccomend doing as they wish.
Find a nice little airport where no other airlines have created a base. It'll have to be a very small airport (around 1 million passengers), but if you create a base there and fly routes that nobody else is flying you should be able to survive.
This sort of behavior happens in real life. Look what United Airlines did to Independence Air at Dulles.
and how am i saposed to do this when im 6 million in the hole and cant make any money??
If you're 6 million in the hole at this point in the month, you're in trouble. You might want to start over.
If you want to keep this game going, you can try selling your ATR to get some cash. They fetch quite a bit of money on the open market, and you can get a bunch of Dash-8's for that money.
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pTr, TEVA South lol Pretty big airline...
Well.. you guys made TEVA South sound so scary... so I only looked in the top 100..=.= Just found out we're competing on PHL-DTW..
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they can afford to lose some money to gain later, besides, they also compensate by creating a lot of small routes and raising the profit margins (I guess, I never saw the airline link)
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Well.. you guys made TEVA South sound so scary... so I only looked in the top 100..=.= Just found out we're competing on PHL-DTW..
Don't dwell on it. They don't even know what "large" and "scary" mean in AM :P
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pTr, TEVA South lol Pretty big airline...
Anyways... I have to race with 4 major airlines :( Think Airlines, Iguana (top in South America), Pro Air
Yeeeeeah fear Pro Air!!!!
Seriously, if someone wants to run a money losing $10 flight they can go ahead. I'm not going to run a money losing route (maybe easy for me to say since I'm pretty sizable). I'll hit em on another one of their routes and/or wait until they decide they don't want to lose money anymore and swoop back in. There are too many potential routes out there to use aircraft on to lose hundreds a day in a $5 fare war. Everyone who starts from scratch wants to fly ORD-JFK and the like but at this stage of the game, that's a non starter.
Check out CLE-CVG someday for a good chuckle. The 10 Dash-8 flights at $5 are an excellent business decision.
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Settle down you lot... :twisted:
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pTr, TEVA South lol Pretty big airline...
Anyways... I have to race with 4 major airlines :( Think Airlines, Iguana (top in South America), Pro Air
Yeeeeeah fear Pro Air!!!!
Seriously, if someone wants to run a money losing $10 flight they can go ahead. I'm not going to run a money losing route (maybe easy for me to say since I'm pretty sizable). I'll hit em on another one of their routes and/or wait until they decide they don't want to lose money anymore and swoop back in. There are too many potential routes out there to use aircraft on to lose hundreds a day in a $5 fare war. Everyone who starts from scratch wants to fly ORD-JFK and the like but at this stage of the game, that's a non starter.
Check out CLE-CVG someday for a good chuckle. The 10 Dash-8 flights at $5 are an excellent business decision.
Then why are you chucking $20 flights at me in Madison ;)
It's all good fun :)
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honestly, newports i give you an A for effort, you're very persisent.
HSV is all yours, i finally picked up enough gates at another i'd
been wanting to get into.
just to clarify things, its pretty much like everyone said.
i got tired of fixing route after route
every 5 mins. so i figured i'd make things challenging
for you.
it happens to all of us. i'll give you an example of something
that happened to me the other day. on JFK-ATL and JFK-HOU the same airline
dumped 6 773 frequencies on both of them at $1 dollar.
that torpedo'd the route for everyone, now everyone is running the route at a loss.
the gates are so hard to get at those airports sometimes you've just got to eat
the loss.
i think this may be what coastal is referring to.
it's all in fun.
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pTr, TEVA South lol Pretty big airline...
Anyways... I have to race with 4 major airlines :( Think Airlines, Iguana (top in South America), Pro Air
Yeeeeeah fear Pro Air!!!!
Seriously, if someone wants to run a money losing $10 flight they can go ahead. I'm not going to run a money losing route (maybe easy for me to say since I'm pretty sizable). I'll hit em on another one of their routes and/or wait until they decide they don't want to lose money anymore and swoop back in. There are too many potential routes out there to use aircraft on to lose hundreds a day in a $5 fare war. Everyone who starts from scratch wants to fly ORD-JFK and the like but at this stage of the game, that's a non starter.
Check out CLE-CVG someday for a good chuckle. The 10 Dash-8 flights at $5 are an excellent business decision.
Then why are you chucking $20 flights at me in Madison ;)
It's all good fun :)
I'm not losing money on them yet.....
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COMMENT REMOVED BY d1-3508, because it was attacking an admin.
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Calm down guys. If you want to scream at your competitiors, do it in private :P :lol:
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If people cannot keep a lid on it, thread will be locked.