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Airline Mogul => Suggestions => Topic started by: 1993matias on January 07, 2012, 02:53:46 pm

Title: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: 1993matias on January 07, 2012, 02:53:46 pm
Hi!

Another suggestion:

When making island hopping routes (e.g. Hawaii or the Caribbean), the prices need to be low because of the small distances, therefore reducing profit. If each airport gets an island attached, you can get a lf bonus when flying short routes to nearby islands. If there is more than one airport on an island, they would share that island and routes between those two airports won't get a bonus.

Just a short thought, what do you think?
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 07, 2012, 07:24:21 pm
We were over this once before I remember. The big problem is, what is an Island? Copenhagen is on an island, so should copenhagen also feature island bonus? London (The British isles)? The whole of Australia? Yet Greenland is the size of a small continent and MUCH more dependent on air transport than Australia. Where does the line go?
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: 1993matias on January 07, 2012, 07:37:46 pm
If you list all the airports on the island - for example England, short routes away from that island will gain a benefit.

How about bridges? If an island is connected to another island by a bridge, should they count as the same island?
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: StephenM on January 08, 2012, 07:45:21 am
I saw a great diagram in uni last year that showed the number of air passenger journeys by country. The UK and Ireland were extremely high on that list vs places like France or Germany. So a factor for countries as islands could be based off population vs airport pax. For small islands a manual tag could be flagged for a bigger boost in traffic.

Come to think of it, for small islands there could be a pax bonus for up to 100 miles as most people only travel to and from the main access points to the islands which are usually close by.
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 08, 2012, 08:16:03 pm
Come to think of it, for small islands there could be a pax bonus for up to 100 miles as most people only travel to and from the main access points to the islands which are usually close by.

What about big islands, such as Greenland? Thats more than 100 miles.
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: StephenM on January 08, 2012, 08:35:15 pm
Come to think of it, for small islands there could be a pax bonus for up to 100 miles as most people only travel to and from the main access points to the islands which are usually close by.

What about big islands, such as Greenland? Thats more than 100 miles.

Large Islands/Countries work differently from small Islands that have a high traffic pattern to the mainland thats near by. Such as Jersey/Gurnsey/Isle of Man etc in the UK.
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 08, 2012, 09:33:32 pm
Large Islands/Countries work differently from small Islands that have a high traffic pattern to the mainland thats near by. Such as Jersey/Gurnsey/Isle of Man etc in the UK.

But Jersey has a population that is twice as large as Greenland! Greenlanders are far more dependent on the daily flights between Copenhagen and Søndre Strømfjord. They even depend on the flights for education, food, post and clothes.

BTW, the same goes for the Faeroe Islands.

These islands might not be located close to any mainland, but they are more dependent on it than islands close to the mainland.
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: StephenM on January 08, 2012, 09:48:04 pm
There will always be special exemptions that exist that you cannot generalise, and that sounds like one of them!  :)
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 09, 2012, 08:34:03 am
There will always be special exemptions that exist that you cannot generalise, and that sounds like one of them!  :)

So I will eventually be able to create a profitable Greenlandair?
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: StephenM on January 09, 2012, 06:18:42 pm
There will always be special exemptions that exist that you cannot generalise, and that sounds like one of them!  :)

So I will eventually be able to create a profitable Greenlandair?

I don't think the current LF formula is anything to write home about, what is missing which really is key in route profitability is weekly frequency. That said routes in AM are already to easy to make money from!

Just realised I didn't answer your question at all. It may be possible with the right changes yes, it just depends on if I mod the existing one or just put together all the bits and pieces I've done over the year for a new one.
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 12, 2012, 08:00:13 pm
How about a cross-border bonus? If you cross the border of a state or country, there is an additional bonus?
Title: Re: Islands affecting loadfactor
Post by: StephenM on January 12, 2012, 09:21:04 pm
How about a cross-border bonus? If you cross the border of a state or country, there is an additional bonus?

The game wouldn't know what cross border is etc. So it would have to be done manually.