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Airline Mogul => Private World Discussion & Invitation => Topic started by: AirFrance on January 17, 2010, 10:26:35 pm

Title: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 17, 2010, 10:26:35 pm
Hi all,

I have played in different private worlds for the last couple of months and I finally decided to create a new private world, described as follows:

Full map.

Length: 10 years starting in 1999.

Starting A/C: Dash 8-400, A319/320/321: based upon token cost.

Number of players: up to 10.

5 A/C and 3 gates to start.


This world cost around 220 tokens and I currently have 180.

Is anybody interested in joining the world to create an airline in South America, Africa or Australasia? Players have already manifested interest to be based in Europe and North America (U.S.). However airlines operating from small/regional airports are welcome anywhere in the world.

If you want to join let me know and I will provide you the password.

Since I will need 40+ more tokens to create the world, I was wondering if somebody was willing to transfer tokens to let me create the world?

Thanks
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Japanair on January 17, 2010, 11:07:20 pm

Since I will need 40+ more tokens to create the world, I was wondering if somebody was willing to transfer tokens to let me create the world?


You can't transfer [free] tokens from one account to another.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: StephenM on January 17, 2010, 11:13:25 pm

Since I will need 40+ more tokens to create the world, I was wondering if somebody was willing to transfer tokens to let me create the world?


You can't transfer free tokens from one account to another.

Minor correction. Paid tokens are transferable.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 17, 2010, 11:33:15 pm
Yes I know that is why i am looking for a generous player who wants to join...

By the way, I tried to create the exact same world in late November. It would have cost only 180. My question is: is there any inflation for token cost because the same world is now worth 220+ tokens?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on January 20, 2010, 07:37:31 pm
Hi there, interested in your World.
I currently run a Private World (my first) and have some info for you.
Please understand I am only imparting experience and in NO way wish to influence or change your private World set up.

For a full World running so long 10 players may be too little. Part of the cut n thrust of a game is competition (not cut throat or unfair) but the more players involved keeps all Airlines interested.

Many players here like to operate 'real' airlines in the early stages, keeping to real bases, however will look to the FOREIGN bases they can open in future to -

A. Connect their network
B. Expand beyond their natural Airlines home
C. Start new and exciting routes and grow.

For example, the World I own, real Airlines MUST open in their REAL home base, the 2nd within their Continent, after that all players are free to open where they like subject to foreign base rules and allowance.

So, looking at YOUR World proposal, If I were QANTAS (which I would gladly join as) My home base would be SYD. The next MEL then as QANTAS have a base in London, LHR would be next.

If your base count would allow for that I would be happy to join, as I think many others would.

Other things to consider -

10 year Worlds will mean at LEAST 1 complete fleet renewal
As a World owner, you will be drawn into some players disputes and spats, so if you have friends that play, include them as it drastically reduces in-game problems.
Some players will become inactive, you will need to set a rule guideline that all players agree to BEFORE they join.

This is just for your information and I hope may be of some benefit.
Happy flying and GOOD LUCK in your first Private World.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: StephenM on January 20, 2010, 07:40:26 pm
Yes I know that is why i am looking for a generous player who wants to join...

By the way, I tried to create the exact same world in late November. It would have cost only 180. My question is: is there any inflation for token cost because the same world is now worth 220+ tokens?

Thanks.

There shouldn't be. Any minor differences in settings? Max Players or Bases?
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 21, 2010, 03:34:24 am
Hi there, interested in your World.
I currently run a Private World (my first) and have some info for you.
Please understand I am only imparting experience and in NO way wish to influence or change your private World set up.

Thank you for your advice, I absolutely agree with you. The reason why I want to limit the number of players is because the world I am currently playing in is a complete mess with two many airlines in major gateways... 10 players is probably not enough, let's say 20.

I will set up some rules that players will have to agree on before joining and I will include your ideas which I find great.

If you want to be Qantas in my world, you're more than welcome. If you're still interested, I will send you the password via MP as soon as the world opens (still 40 tokens to get).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: airlines08 on January 21, 2010, 10:09:04 am
Hi..!! I'm interested to join. But, I'm still waiting for the fixed complete specs and the rules..
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on January 21, 2010, 11:20:26 am
I'm with airlines08. Formalise the World spec and define some rules and when your set up, I would like to join as QANTAS please.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 21, 2010, 11:23:58 am
Same here. Will be going for British Airways. :D
(BTW, Jay, let's form Oneworld! :D)
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: airlines08 on January 21, 2010, 11:31:34 am
Would like to join as CATHAY PACIFIC maybe, but I need the world specs first..  ;)
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on January 21, 2010, 02:37:11 pm
Same here. Will be going for British Airways. :D
(BTW, Jay, let's form Oneworld! :D)

The poor guy hasn't even started up yet and were shouting Airlines and alliances  :lol:
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 22, 2010, 01:55:39 am
Same here. Will be going for British Airways. :D
(BTW, Jay, let's form Oneworld! :D)

Sorry but I already have sufficient players in Europe and North America...You can establish your airline in Australasia, Africa or South America (still a whole bunch of major airlines)

World Specs:

10 Years starting in 1999.

Starting A/C: 5x A319

3 gates

Full world (except Antarctica)

20 players max

Here are some rules that I want to implement:

Only existing airlines starting in their home base

Only 0.5 and 1 frequencies for routes.

I am open to suggestions...

Thanks

Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: airlines08 on January 22, 2010, 10:51:28 am
Same here. Will be going for British Airways. :D
(BTW, Jay, let's form Oneworld! :D)

Sorry but I already have sufficient players in Europe and North America...You can establish your airline in Australasia, Africa or South America (still a whole bunch of major airlines)

World Specs:

10 Years starting in 1999.

Starting A/C: 5x A319

3 gates

Full world (except Antarctica)

20 players max

Here are some rules that I want to implement:

Only existing airlines starting in their home base

Only 0.5 and 1 frequencies for routes.

I am open to suggestions...

Thanks



Ok.., I'm extremely would like to join as CATHAY PACIFIC..!!  :D
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 22, 2010, 02:37:56 pm
Sorry, don't want to play in Asia because i'm a big noob there. I prefer European or American airlines. Sorry, if it ain't BA, i ain't going.  8)
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: pseudoswede on January 22, 2010, 02:46:35 pm
Seriously. Full worlds aren't worth playing unless there are a few hundred people in it.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 24, 2010, 12:48:54 am
We have Cathay and Qantas so far.

Is anybody interested in joining the world to develop an airline in South America, Africa, Asia. You could create Emirates, Singapore Airlines, TAM...

Just one more rule added to the world:

It will be forbidden to create routes between airports in the same metropolitan area. Ex: London Heathrow to London Gatwick..

If nobody wants to transfer tokens to create the world you will have to wait 15 to 20 days to be able to play.

Thanks guys,

Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 24, 2010, 11:14:34 am
For one last time, can i have BA? If not, can i have ANA?
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 24, 2010, 05:52:01 pm
For one last time, can i have BA? If not, can i have ANA?

Now we're talking !!

ANA is for you.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: eladkram29 on January 25, 2010, 06:19:51 am
can i Join???

I love Asian routes... I would like to establish Qatar Airways or Emirates
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 25, 2010, 11:25:40 am
Yes, but i wanted a Oneworld member airline, because my good friend Jay and I are planning to make Oneworld, and JAL doesn't operate A319s. So sorry, i'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 26, 2010, 03:09:50 am
can i Join???

I love Asian routes... I would like to establish Qatar Airways or Emirates

The world has not been created yet so let me know which carrier you want to establish to keep the other one available for other players.

Yes, but i wanted a Oneworld member airline, because my good friend Jay and I are planning to make Oneworld, and JAL doesn't operate A319s. So sorry, i'm not so sure.

There is no rule that prevents you from using an aircraft type that is not actually used by the airline you're running. JAL, even with a few A319s will remain  JAL and I won't object that. (And ANA does not have A319 either, only 320s ;))

We still need additional players in South America, Africa and Asia.


Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 26, 2010, 10:42:58 am
But i like my airline to be as realistic as possible. Sorry, i think i'll have to skip this world.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 27, 2010, 02:45:37 am
But i like my airline to be as realistic as possible. Sorry, i think i'll have to skip this world.

You will regret this decision trust me...

Since Low Cost Carriers have become a significant part of the industry, I have decided to invite players who want to play Ryanair, EasyJet, Southwest as long as you operate from secondary airports.

We still need additional 5 to 10 players.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 27, 2010, 11:13:27 am
Fine then, i will play ANA on one condition. If we will have only fictional alliances and that any airline can join.
BTW, who is playing BA anyway?
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 28, 2010, 01:48:48 am
Fine then, i will play ANA on one condition. If we will have only fictional alliances and that any airline can join.
BTW, who is playing BA anyway?

i am sorry but I want to keep real alliances and I does not make sense to put ANA is OneWorld honestly. Feel free to take JAL and get rid of your A319, that probably the best you can do to be realistic.

Here are the bases that are no longer available for your airline in the US: ATL, ORD, DEN, DFW, LAX, JFK: If you want to create Continental, US Airways, Alaska, Southwest, Allegiant... feel free to and let me know.

In Europe, the following bases are no longer available: CDG, LHR, AMS, FRA, MAD. Still many airlines to play.

Thanks

Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 28, 2010, 12:16:11 pm
Deleted.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: tintinfan on January 28, 2010, 01:29:09 pm
Could I join as Royal Jordanian?
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 28, 2010, 01:33:45 pm
I've decided that i will have to sacrifice realism, and therefore, i'm joining as JAL in this world. HND is my main hub.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 29, 2010, 02:58:55 am
Could I join as Royal Jordanian?

Welcome on board !!

We need great airlines:

Continental,
Emirates,
Singapore Airlines,
LAN,
TAM,
Korean Air,
Air India,
South African Airways,
Air new Zealand,

Please join the unbelievable world !!
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 29, 2010, 03:50:47 am
I am seriously thinking to switch from A319 to Dash 8-400 as the starting aircraft. It would cost 20 tokens less and the world could be set up next week.

I know it may affect the way you start your airline but it will also generate more revenues.

Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on January 29, 2010, 02:38:53 pm
That's fine with me. Although i wanted to start with A319s, the Dash 8s aren't that bad either. In fact, they're one of the most profitable aircraft i have ever operated.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: tintinfan on January 30, 2010, 10:55:25 am
Could I join as Royal Jordanian?

Welcome on board !!

We need great airlines:

Continental,
Emirates,
Singapore Airlines,
LAN,
TAM,
Korean Air,
Air India,
South African Airways,
Air new Zealand,

Please join the unbelievable world !!


Can I be LAN instead?
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on January 31, 2010, 07:40:41 pm
Starting with dash8-400s is not a problem.

It will also slow the start of the bigger players initially.

QANTAS will be happy with the good ole work-horse Dash 8.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on January 31, 2010, 09:20:45 pm
Could I join as Royal Jordanian?

Welcome on board !!

We need great airlines:

Continental,
Emirates,
Singapore Airlines,
LAN,
TAM,
Korean Air,
Air India,
South African Airways,
Air new Zealand,

Please join the unbelievable world !!


Can I be LAN instead?

Of course,

Enjoy no competition in South America ;)
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on February 01, 2010, 05:16:12 am
We need more players...

The following airlines would be greatly appreciated to increase competition in this new world:

KLM,

Iberia,

Alitalia,

Continental,

The world's specs are:

Full World

Unlimited bases

Starting A/C: 5 x Dash 8-400

Starting gates: 3

Players: 15-20

Starting cash: $500k


Join us, the world will be created this week.



Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on February 04, 2010, 04:05:09 am
I still want to join this World, but would like to change my Airline from QANTAS to either these non taken airlines...

1. Air France
2. Lufthansa
3. Iberia

If they are still available.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on February 04, 2010, 11:03:05 am
I still want to join this World, but would like to change my Airline from QANTAS to either these non taken airlines...

1. Air France
2. Lufthansa
3. Iberia

If they are still available.
So you won't join as a oneworld member?
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on February 04, 2010, 03:53:32 pm
Iberia is a OneWorld member.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: BINDU on February 04, 2010, 10:07:07 pm
is someone playing as American Airlines??? If so, then I want to join as


1. China Eastern
2. Qantas
3. Jet Airways
4. GOL
5. Mexicana

These airlines will allow me to join One world, as they are closely alligned with said alliance

@ JETRC and JAy, I am vin2basketball from albionairlines forum
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on February 05, 2010, 04:28:54 am
Iberia is a OneWorld member.

You can start with Iberia, it is absolutely fine.

BINDU, you can pick Qantas if you want, OneWorld will be well represented...

We need more players in Star Alliance: Continental, United, Singapore..., ANA...

We critically need players in the U.S. choose from the following: Southwest, Continental, Allegiant, US Airways, United

Guys could you bring some players from your forum?

Thanks
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: BINDU on February 05, 2010, 11:36:45 am
im probs gonna be china eastern pr qantas
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: norge on February 05, 2010, 04:23:42 pm
NO ONE SHOULD SEE THIS
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on February 05, 2010, 06:07:22 pm
Hello BINDU (a friend on our forum)

I will gladly reserve and take Iberia. So I can start and manage OneWorld for alliance members.

AirFrance (this Worlds owner when it goes live) PLEASE join our Albion Airlines forum as I have permission from the owner to create and moderate a forum space just for this World where each player can post updates, route information, Alliance membership etc.

Jetrc, have you finalised your Airline choice yet?

Jay
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on February 06, 2010, 06:03:23 am
I'm taking JAL, to have some reinforcement in Asia. :D
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: nathanaelmt on February 06, 2010, 03:33:43 pm
Hello. I'd like to have Finnair, based on Helsinki :D
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on February 06, 2010, 07:08:52 pm
Hi All,

The world will be created later today and will have the following specs:

Starting in 1999 for 10 years

Starting A/C: 5 x Dash 8-400.

3 Gates

Cash: $500k or less

Full World

Commercial and Business Jets (some of you may be interested in acquiring BBJ i don't know)

20 Players


Here is the list of existing airlines as of today:

Air France

Delta Air Lines

Finnair (nathanelmt)

JAL (jetrc)

Singapore Airlines (norge)

Iberia (Flybynight747)

Qantas or China Eastern (Bindu): please let me know which one you want

LAN (tintinfan)

Qatar Airways or Emirates (eladkram29)

Cathay Pacific (Airline08)

We currently have 10 airlines. OneWorld is hijacking this world, that's why we need more Star Alliance and SkyTeam players. There is only One Airline in North America, please come and play Air Canada, Continental, Southwest, United...

Thanks
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: pseudoswede on February 06, 2010, 07:22:24 pm
Here are the bases that are no longer available for your airline in the US: ATL, ORD, DEN, DFW, LAX, JFK

In Europe, the following bases are no longer available: CDG, LHR, AMS, FRA, MAD

Besides CDG, ATL, and MAD, it doesn't appear to me that the other cities have been taken...
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on February 06, 2010, 07:37:49 pm
Here are the bases that are no longer available for your airline in the US: ATL, ORD, DEN, DFW, LAX, JFK

In Europe, the following bases are no longer available: CDG, LHR, AMS, FRA, MAD

Besides CDG, ATL, and MAD, it doesn't appear to me that the other cities have been taken...

You are absolutely right. I originally had more players interested in joining the world, that is why I indicate the airlines that have already been selected.

However, as the world creator, I can refuse airlines to limit the competition at strategic bases.

But If the airline that you want to join is not on the list, feel free to ask
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: BINDU on February 07, 2010, 03:02:49 am
what about american airlines, if not taken, then I want American. Otherwise China Eastern
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: BINDU on February 07, 2010, 03:03:29 am
also, as american could I start at ORD??
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on February 07, 2010, 03:08:37 am
also, as american could I start at ORD??

I don't want American in the world, too many OneWorld airlines.

Feel free to go with China Eastern, and then join SkyTeam later  ;)

If you absolutely want to be based in the U.S. then go for United or Continental.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on February 07, 2010, 07:26:36 am
What's the world name? I'm just waiting for your go-signal.

Vince, why not take Royal Jordanian? So that you could join Oneworld.

BTW, why can't Oneworld take the bigger airlines? Why can't we take AA or BA?
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on February 07, 2010, 11:05:38 am
Hello there. OneWorld isnt trying to 'take over' this world.
We are just some friends who play in other games.

secondly, is your World open? Is it PW1300 Keep it real?
Jay
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on February 07, 2010, 11:50:25 am
Seems to be. This will be my first world where i will have the lowest start-up cash. 75,000! :D
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: BINDU on February 07, 2010, 01:54:42 pm
no, i just want to play with my friends, and american is the only viable airline left thats physically in One World, just a heads up though, China eastern has been invited to oneworld so illl join it anyway
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jetrc on February 07, 2010, 02:18:21 pm
That's fine with me. :D
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: BINDU on February 07, 2010, 07:16:00 pm
ill join later today, but can I join as American please
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: AirFrance on February 07, 2010, 07:34:23 pm
ill join later today, but can I join as American please

I am sorry we have only one Star Alliance airline and there are only 10 airlines left (20 players only).

If you absolutely want to join as American then you will have to wait until more Star players join.

If you absolutely want to play in the US then go for UA, CO ....

If you want to join now I would be happy to welcome China Eastern.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: BINDU on February 07, 2010, 09:06:50 pm
ok
no worries

ill join as china eastern

into oneworld
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: Flybynight747 on February 07, 2010, 09:57:10 pm
I have just started ops in this World. As Iberia.
The World owner is a friendly guy and has set out some very fair and open rules.

I have to say, to make the World more interesting, it needs some extra Star Alliance members (not amongst those who have already showed an interest)

So why not come and be part of an interesting and new World from day 1. It's 12 hours 'till kick off.
Title: Re: Fullfill Your Airline Dream
Post by: jkjk on March 06, 2010, 03:38:55 pm
Hei. Can I join this world as Ryanair in Dublin?  :)