Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => Game Updates => Topic started by: StephenM on July 16, 2008, 07:14:01 pm
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Aircraft Registrations are in public testing. They are automatically assigned by the country where your first base is. Aircraft cannot be re-registered unless they are bought from the aircraft market.
The aircraft registrations will be displayed on additional pages once any errors are ironed out.
One of the bugs have been resolved, this is where a character appeared where a number should in sequence.
Thanks to Bálint for his time in developing the feature and refining it.
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Isn't this what ID numbers are?
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Isn't this what ID numbers are?
nope. Its something like N-FGOD or, in Blue's case, G-AAAY :lol:
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Isn't this what ID numbers are?
Similar in its uniqueness, but IDs will remain the primary method of identifying aircraft by the developers.
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2 questions
1. So the game allots the Regs not the player????
2. And what happens to the Reg when the plane is leased or sold????
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The Reg is sort of like the aircraft ID. The more planes that are bought the lower reg goes. ie.
the 1st plane is G-AAAA, the second is G-AAAB, 3rd G-AAAC etc.
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I seem to have been the first to do this in the US in my world, I got N111AA - unfortunately, I am definitely not a fan of American Airlines. :o Also, I was thinking along the same lines as Expressair, I had imagined we'd type in a registration, and it would either assign that registration or tell us it was not available, or we could choose to auto-assign a registration in the same way it does now.
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I am wondering if there is a way we can turn off this reg system. It's a nice addition, but I prefer to make my own reg over the name area, and the reg is now just confusing to me.
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1. So the game allots the Regs not the player????
Yes
2. And what happens to the Reg when the plane is leased or sold????
When someone goes to buy the aircraft, they may choose to have the aircraft re-registered. Leased aircraft cannot be re-registered.
I had imagined we'd type in a registration
In order to ensure everyone will actually use the feature, it had to be automated. It is also automated to prevent the complaints "I cannot find a registration".
I am wondering if there is a way we can turn off this reg system.
It may be possible to turn off, is that on all pages?
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A big thanks to the developer of this feature which seems to be Balint according to Stephen's post. Its been a long time coming, in fact I can still remember joining up and having Registration - Coming soon listed in the aircraft window. Months later, thanks to the work of Balint the feature has now been released.
Certainly going to add another touch of realism to the game. Thanks again.
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Hello,
the aircraft registrations were developed to mimic their real-world equivalent, the registrations painted on the tail of an aircraft.
The real registration pattern is used for each country, which means if you buy an aircraft for a US base it will get a registration like N123AB while an UK based plane gets G-ABCD, etc..
Each aircraft has a unique registration which is assigned when you buy the plane (either new, or from the used market).
There are still countries in the database which do not have a registration pattern, so if you buy a plane and it does not get a registration your base is probaby in one of those countries. We will fill in those patterns as soon as we know them..
The planes you get for free when creating an airline are not yet registered, because they are created before you select your base country. They can, however be registered later using a button on the aircraft info page.
PS: There were some problems with the numeric registrations (e.g. -1234), they were generated incorrectly so you got something like -111A after -1119 instead of -1120, I fixed this today.
In case you get a seemingly incorrect registration or do not get any (except for the free planes mentioned above) do not hesitate and contact us.
Enjoy!
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hey Balint! Nice to see you still visit the forums a bit, hope you come more.
PS. Do more updates as useful as this one!!!
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PS. Do more updates as useful as this one!!!
Wait till you see his next one. ;)
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PS. Do more updates as useful as this one!!!
Wait till you see his next one. ;)
Nate excited! Nate excited! Nate Hyper! Hyper! Hyper! :D :D :D
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Might this, perhaps, be the great hotswapping tool? :shock:
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Might this, perhaps, be the great hotswapping tool? :shock:
I think it is :D
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I hope so.....
Like this?
Hotswapping Utlity v.1.0
Aircraft:NA-123-TE
to
Aircraft: NI-123CK
or
Route ID will do the job?
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Right, since your all getting carried away with yourselves and have guessed incorrectly, its not hotswap.
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I think he's trying to dupe us :shock:
It's either that or private worlds...
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I really like the registrations, however I noticed one issue. For aircraft in the US, the numbers change but the N and the last two letters stay the same. In the game, the last two letters change but the numbers stay the same, e.g. N111AA, N111AB N111AC, whereas in the real world it would be N111AA, N112AA, N113AA, and so on.
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I really like the registrations, however I noticed one issue. For aircraft in the US, the numbers change but the N and the last two letters stay the same. In the game, the last two letters change but the numbers stay the same, e.g. N111AA, N111AB N111AC, whereas in the real world it would be N111AA, N112AA, N113AA, and so on.
that was wat i was pondering about.... Airline Mougul has been using unreliable sources (like Wikipedia).... tsk tsk :D
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I really like the registrations, however I noticed one issue. For aircraft in the US, the numbers change but the N and the last two letters stay the same. In the game, the last two letters change but the numbers stay the same, e.g. N111AA, N111AB N111AC, whereas in the real world it would be N111AA, N112AA, N113AA, and so on.
that was wat i was pondering about.... Airline Mougul has been using unreliable sources (like Wikipedia).... tsk tsk :D
I cannot find the source for US data, there are a variety of US Registrations, however only one sequence is available per country. Also the way the registration system is designed its auto incremented from the last character going inwards.
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Yeah, Stephen is right, the code is looping through the characters staring with the last one, and incrementing it. This seemed to be the only universal solution that will work with -123, -1234, -123ab, -abc and all possible postfix formats. I might be implementing the US type incrementing later.
Now, however I'm concentrating on the new feature Stephen mentioned above, which will be.... no I just can't tell you yet 8)
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Noooo!
Must you be so secretive?
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Noooo!
Must you be so secretive?
It wouldn't be a surprise otherwise would it? :wink:
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I guess, something like private world?
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Nothing like private worlds, private worlds are being worked on, thats not a secret..
This is something that will take the game a step closer to the real world, just like having aircraft registrations did.
The game will be more realistic and a little harder, slower. 8)
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Make the game HARDER!
No this, cannot be... :shock:
EDIT: Is this the new Maintenance thing?
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Nope.
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About registrations...in W10 will we start off with a registered plane? :?
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About registrations...in W10 will we start off with a registered plane? :?
The planes you get for free when creating an airline are not yet registered, because they are created before you select your base country. They can, however be registered later using a button on the aircraft info page.
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About registrations...in W10 will we start off with a registered plane? :?
The planes you get for free when creating an airline are not yet registered, because they are created before you select your base country. They can, however be registered later using a button on the aircraft info page.
Woops! Didn't see that. :lol:
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This wouldnt happen to be seat classes would it?
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This wouldnt happen to be seat classes would it?
I don't think so. Let's get back on topic. :wink:
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Its not classes
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I am wondering if there is a way we can turn off this reg system.
It may be possible to turn off, is that on all pages?
I'd like it off at least on the aircraft list. Only reason being that there is already a lot of information there so all lines get wrapped. Makes the listing very difficult to read (for me, that is).
I'd like to have something like...
Lockheed 749 Constellation On Order (42)
... instead of...
Lockheed On
749 Order
Constellation (42)
Maybe if, instead of a fixed width table, it could span all the screen this wouldn't be so bad. Right now I have (1280px wide monitor) a lot of empty space on the right hand side and then the list is all squeezed.
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Nothing like private worlds, private worlds are being worked on, thats not a secret..
This is something that will take the game a step closer to the real world, just like having aircraft registrations did.
The game will be more realistic and a little harder, slower. 8)
It's order books, I bet. I think that's good, overall, as long aircraft from each manufacturer will be delivered to airlines in a spiral pattern (that is, every airline that ordered a/c's will get their first one before anyone gets their second.), rather than in the order they were ordered in. If the latter were the case, the richest airlines could hog all the orders and it would take the little guys an unfair length of time to get theirs.
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How about mass registration?
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How about mass registration?
Every aircraft that is ordered will automatically be registered from now on, so there won't be any need for it in future worlds. There is also a check box for registration when you buy one from someone else. I've done both already and it worked fine.
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Nice add-ons, but i'm getting a trouble here... All my aircraft registered with "-".. what happend?
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Nice add-ons, but i'm getting a trouble here... All my aircraft registered with "-".. what happend?
just click on registration and one will be generated automatically. This is applicable to all acfts u bought before this feature was added.
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it works.. thanks... :D
Hope there will be a mass-registration to register aircrafts in one click.
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I'd like to request that the feature be modified to allow users to select their own registrations. Otherwise, it's no different than (and just as useless as) the aircraft ID.
The point of a reg number system should be to organize (and semi-realistically) define an airline's fleet, in the case of US airlines, using the airline's preferred suffixes (AA, AN, US, UW, PS, UA, etc.) If it's just a sequentially-assigned letter-number group, it's meaningless to the aircraft owner, and will result in the person having a fleet full of randomly-registered aircraft whose reg numbers bear no relationship whatsoever to any logical rhyme or reason.
As it is, I'll simply ignore the AM-assigned registration number and continue to create my own, using the aircraft name tool.
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(and just as useless as) the aircraft ID
If you think Aircraft Ids are useless, then AM couldn't function...
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Useless *to the player.*
Of course the ID is important internally - but to a player, the ID has no useful relationship to anything meaningful. It's an automatically assigned sequential series of numbers.
Reg numbers would be useful if a player was allowed to select their own - enabling them to keep track of their fleet by assigning different types of aircraft to different logical reg number groupings, as the real airlines do.
As it stands, the reg number system is just another automatically assigned sequential series of numbers and letters, with no more usefulness to the player than the ID number.
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Yeah, probably like (in the real world) SQ w/ their a380's which is all registered with 9V-"SK"...
Or someone whose airline's code is (for example) ADE @ Germany will be registered with D-AD(xx)
should be a little bit self-define for this feature..(just advice) :wink:
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That surprise - would it happen to have something to do with runway lengths? (unless it's what's already been mentioned in some other thread)
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I think airline registration codes would be a good idea.
I'm just happ to have G-AAAA,B,C and D!
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I think airline registration codes would be a good idea.
I'm just happ to have G-AAAA,B,C and D!
...G-AAAW, G-AAAX, G-AAAY, G-AAAZ :lol:
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I now have to find a way to get G-ZZZZ :P
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I just got a few registrations such as N12AGQ.
However, I believe for US regs only the last one or 2 characters can be letters (but don't have to be) - correct me if I'm wrong.
And they can have less than 5 characters (eg N12AB) - again, correct me if I'm wrong.
Something to look into?
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IIRC, US Registrations can be anything of the following:
N11111
N1111A
N111AA
Where 1 can be any digit and A can be any letter, except I or O.
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IIRC, US Registrations can be anything of the following:
N11111
N1111A
N111AA
Where 1 can be any digit and A can be any letter, except I or O.
Indeed - and IIRC they can also be N11AA.
But they cannot be N11AAA, which is what I'm getting.
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No, they definitely can't :P
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Oh really? :D
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6324865&nseq=15 (http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6324865&nseq=15)
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Oh really? :D
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6324865&nseq=15 (http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6324865&nseq=15)
He was saying they can't be N11AAA :P :D
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What about reserving regs (ie. N111AA-N111AZ) to maintain "order in your fleet."
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I could have sworn I saw special characters appear in the reg....anyone else see it?