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Airline Mogul => Private World Discussion & Invitation => Topic started by: pilotguy121a on January 21, 2011, 11:06:42 pm

Title: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 21, 2011, 11:06:42 pm: Not an invitation but rather a poll to see if anyone would be interested in this...

So one major issue with this game is that it goes to fast. Within the course of 2 real weeks you can be making 40million in a game day. One reason why this is, I believe, is the 1 frequency trip, having 1 plane fly to 5 different destinations. While it is the quickest way to make money in this game, it is severely unrealistic in most cases. I want to create a world in which we create the utmost realistic airline possible.
For Example:
-Using at REALISTIC frequency
---What I mean is that if you have a 737-700 going from ORD to ATL, NO airline would run that once a day. Neither should we. More like 4-5 times daily.
-Standardizing your fleets
---I see it all to often, people buy 1 of every airplane possible. NO airline would ever do that. There is no benefit to it in game but this is about realism.
-Using reasonably sized aircraft for a particular route
---Using a CRJ-200LR on a route from ORD to ATL would be somewhat unrealistic, so in this world it should be avoided

So the reason I'm asking if this sounds enjoyable is because it would a world with a password to detour those who wouldn't read the rules. This world is meant to accommodate suggestions and issues that I've seen and experience while playing.

Some more details would be:
-1mill starting cash
-5 years; 2005-2010
-8 domestic/2 foreign
-Starting A/C would either be 5xRegionals or 3xA319 (or similar)

Post suggestions or if you would be open to the idea of this.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Mastafa on January 21, 2011, 11:23:12 pm: lol This is the first time I saw StephenM reading a Private world invitation :lol:

Sorry, can't join now cause I joined too many worlds already :(
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 22, 2011, 12:37:49 am: Thats fine, it won't be for a while. I mean i already have enough tokens, but I want a lot of interest and people to say yes before I spend them. :lol:
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 22, 2011, 06:26:43 am: Id be up for something like that. Maybe a few more years, but if not, that's not a problem. You got me in. I vote A319
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: 1993matias on January 22, 2011, 07:59:04 am: I'd like to play with, but I'm already in three other worlds, so I don't really have time... But if I have, sure, I'll join! And I vote for the regionals.

The bases should be realistic. Not bases spread over the whole world, e.g. in AMS, ATL, Sidney and Tokyo. Stay in your region, e.g. AMS, FRA, LHR. Maybe just stick to your country? Airlines like British don't have bases outside GB; on the other hand, airlines like SAS has bases in Denmark, Norway ans Sweden.
So i.e. this suggestion suggests to keep the bases to the local area. Whatever the local area is Luxembourg or Scandinavia.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 22, 2011, 10:45:44 am: Quote from: pilotguy121a on January 21, 2011, 11:06:42 pm
-Standardizing your fleets
---I see it all to often, people buy 1 of every airplane possible. NO airline would ever do that. There is no benefit to it in game but this is about realism.

Air China would like to disagree:

http://airfleets.net/flottecie/Air%20China.htm

737 Classics + 737 NG + A32X + 757
767 + A330-200
A330-300 + 777-200 + A340
747-400 + 777-300ER

And lets not forget Delta:
737NG + A32X + 757
ERJ + CRJ
767 + A332
772 + A333.

Aeroflot:
A32X + 737NG + MS-21
767 + A330 + 787+ A350 + 777 + Il-96
An-148 + SSJ

SAS:
MD-80 + 737 Classic + 737NG + A32X + MD-90 (at one point)
CRJ-900/DHC-8-Q400 + Fokker 50

Koreanair at one point operated all of the following at the same time:
747-100, -200, -300, -400, A300B4, A300-600R, A330, 777, MD11
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 22, 2011, 02:34:39 pm: You misunderstood what I said, which was fairly easy to do considering the way I typed it out. Let me clarify:
I've seen on numerous occasions airlines using the following:
1xA319
1xA319LR
1x737-700
1x737-700HGW
1xKFC
1xCRJ-900
1xERJ-175STD
1xBeech 1900
...
...
...

Hopefully that is a bit more clear.
But, Delta acquired Northwest's Airbuses, they didn't operate Airbus before the merger.

Anyway, I wouldn't kick you out for having to many different a/c, that would be ridiculous.

1993matias, I see your point! However, people seem to enjoy creating mega airlines and I fear that it would only hinder people who would like to join.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: StephenM on January 22, 2011, 02:48:48 pm: Quote from: 1993matias on January 22, 2011, 07:59:04 am
The bases should be realistic. Not bases spread over the whole world, e.g. in AMS, ATL, Sidney and Tokyo.

Set foreign focus cities to 0 in the world configuration and you can protect against this.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: AirbusGuy350 on January 22, 2011, 03:09:45 pm: I would like to join world like this but I have quite a few airlines that won't end until late march.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: CornField on January 22, 2011, 04:00:51 pm: I like the concept of the idea. WAAAYYYY back when, the type of play you are talking about did occur...

But I will present some counter-points to your arguments...

Standardizing your fleets....

Take a look at Aeroflot's historic fleet. They operated every type of Soviet built aircraft...
For a more modern example... Era Alaska. They operate a VERY diverse fleet for such a small airline. Their web page shows 8 types of aircraft, and I know they operate at least one or two more types not shown.

Yes, these are two of the more specialist airlines out there but they do meet your criteria.

Reasonably sized aircraft...

I will be glad to use your chosen route pairings...

ORD-ATL
I have ridden both CRJ-200's and ERJ-140's on this route. At the time neither United(CRJ) or AA(ERJ) wanted to invest much capacity on this route, but needed to maintain a presence to preserve their high end passengers and business contracts.. To be honest I have flown the Canadian Crippler(CRJ-1/2) to most of the major US business markets from ORD on United/AA/Delta.

Until there is a coded-in competitive disadvantage for too few frequencies, you will not see players adopt a reasonable frequency model. I would love to see a more 'feeder-based' idea of play though. The concept of an Airbus model landing at an airport with 4k annual passengers just is not a realistic one.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 22, 2011, 05:29:49 pm: How about you create a game with a password, and only allow those of us with more experience join? Mastafa, Mathias, AirbusGuy and me etc. would all be able to abide by the rules set. Just PM the password to those of us who a regulars on the forum.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 22, 2011, 08:22:56 pm: Love how I wasn't included in that "experience" group. Lol.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 22, 2011, 08:33:40 pm: But continuing on with what I was talking about with the time, I'm not sure the world would be long enough for some of the planes we may have. I have the plan of only operating A319/A320 and with this way of realistic type, I don't see me growing very much in that time with this frequency. But that's just my suggestion. My other is Cornfield and Stephen should join ; ) Cornfield could open United Sky Group! : P
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 22, 2011, 08:43:10 pm: The whole point of this world would be to emulate real world airlines. Thats it. Everyone is getting caught up on the examples I listed as "rules" they are not meant to be. More of a guideline.

There was a world a while back that was devoted to REAL WORLD AIRLINES. I love that concept but it would defeat the purpose of creating your own airline. I'll list a few more examples of a routes that would be realistic, at least IMO.
ORD-ATL
737-900HGW with 3xFrequency
or
CRJ-700 with 6xFrequency
or
757-200 with 2xFrequency
or
A321-200 with 3xFrequency
ATL-LAX
739HGW with Max Frequency
or
CRJ-700 with Max Frequency
or
767-300 with Max Frequency

Hopefully this will illustrate my point a bit more clearly. Foreign bases will be dropped to just ONE. Domestic bases will then be dropped to 6. I don't deny that legacy carriers operate small a/c to large airports, but the key difference between them an AM is the frequency at which they do so. It more than makes up for their smaller a/c. Plus they most likely use more than 1 a/c on that route, further enhancing their capacity on that route.

Password will be on but not sure if i want to limit this world by just a few players.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 22, 2011, 09:00:39 pm: Quote from: Vamerica on January 22, 2011, 08:22:56 pm
Love how I wasn't included in that "experience" group. Lol.

Don't worry, you fit the requirements as well ;) But there are far too many regulars on these forums for me to remember all names :lol:
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: CornField on January 22, 2011, 09:21:29 pm: VA.... Its okay if he doesn't consider me one of the experienced players. I find enjoyment in different aspects of the game. If Stephen ever offers the ability to run feeder for other airlines, you know I will kick everyone else's tail at it. Until then.. I still have my sub-200 player number to console me.

Virgin Serbia... I'm not disagreeing or attempting to push an idea on your world. They are your credits do with them as you please... I'm simply showing you that an idea of how a RL schedule compares..
I did a couple of tests for UA and AA on a typical business passenger driven day... I only did one way to save myself some time.

FEB 28th 2011
ORD-ATL
UA
7 flights under UA code. 1 under CO and 1 US coded flight
3 E170
3 CRJ7
1 320

The CO coded flight is a DH8 to CLE, then a CRJ to ATL
The US coded flight is a 320 to CLT then a 319 to ATL

AA
7 non-stops
7 CR7
1 via DFW
MD-80's
1 via LGA
MD to LGA- CR7 to ATL.

Personally, I would love to again play in a world where people didn't just click grind themselves to the top of a meaningless leader board.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 22, 2011, 09:31:48 pm: Could be a feeder for me in SFO/LAX? :P

Well I want to join this world as Virgin America, basing at SFO first.

Was playing around with what routes would be like and on paper this is what it came out as.

Major East:

SFO-JFK
SFO-ORD
SFO-DFW
SFO-DEN(I know this and DFW wouldn't be considered East, but I slipped them into this section then making a new one)
SFO-ATL
SFO-MCO

West Coast:

SFO-LAX
SFO-LAS
SFO-SEA
SFO-PHX
SFO-SAN
SFO-SLC

Then LAX would be opened.

Routes would be opened between the two list, but in the order I said. Say SFO-JFK, SFO-LAX, SFO-ORD. They'd go down there list.

With the time of the world, I'd probably stick to a fleet of A319, but with A320 entering when my cash flow is decent.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: StephenM on January 22, 2011, 09:46:36 pm: Quote from: Vamerica on January 22, 2011, 09:31:48 pm
Well I want to join this world as Virgin America, basing at SFO first.

Doug, please take a look at the following thread. You are no longer allowed to name/brand your in-game airlines after real world names/brands. http://stephenm.org/smfforum/index.php?topic=11497.0
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 22, 2011, 09:49:22 pm: Then welcome Optimum Airlines : P
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: gopats1479 on January 22, 2011, 10:01:15 pm: I would love to join in this world, but I have some conditions:
10 max bases
2 foreign bases

I love the idea. I have played in several worlds and have much experience. I will abide by whatever rules you make.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 22, 2011, 10:47:38 pm: Guys, I'm flexible on game year/length. I could possibly bump it up to 10 years, starting in 1999-2009 (sacrifice a/c type and amount). However, I need some input on bases. I'm going to try to create some polls, wish me luck, lol SUCCESS! Though i wish we can have more than one poll, that would make this a bit more simple.

Lets see how this poll goes and I'll check out some other things.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 22, 2011, 11:57:38 pm: I say no foreign bases. That is unrealistic.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 23, 2011, 12:03:59 am: Quote from: CornField on January 22, 2011, 09:21:29 pm
VA.... Its okay if he doesn't consider me one of the experienced players.

Geez, I never said you weren't experienced ???

Quote from: CornField on January 22, 2011, 09:21:29 pm
Virgin Serbia... I'm not disagreeing or attempting to push an idea on your world. They are your credits do with them as you please... I'm simply showing you that an idea of how a RL schedule compares..

Maybe you should take a good long read of the entire thread, taking into context the names of them who posted various posts. This idea is not mine :-X
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 23, 2011, 12:57:09 am: Well the reason I would like at least 1 foreign base is for those in Europe where the countries are small. I know it adds a touch of non-realism, but it is to attract a larger number of people for more competition.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 23, 2011, 04:07:40 am: I don't see how you don't think it does. Most airlines operate a focus city in other airports. These are with a lot of less routes. But there still are, UA in Asia, NWA/Delta in AMS, ANZ in LAX. This is especially big with down under airlines. Most have a Asia airport to be a stop over for there European routes.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 23, 2011, 05:42:27 am: Well, we will let the poll determine what combination of domestic and foreign we get. We have to remember here, this world isn't terribly long and this game play will be slower than what we all are used to. Having 2 or 3 focus cities may be the most we will be able to achieve. Let me explain this a bit:
PURE HYPOTHETICAL ABOUT TO HAPPEN UP IN HERE:
737-700 flying to 10 different destination from 1 airport with 1 frequency to each destination
Profit of: $800,000 DAILY (AKA NON REALISTIC)

737-700 flying to 2 different destinations from 1 airport with 5 frequencies per destination
Profit of: $100,000 DAILY (AKA MORE REALISTIC THAN STANDARD GAME PLAY PRACTICES OF 1xFREQUENCY)

So theoretically, airline progression would be slowed 8 times that of what we are used to.

Hopefully that illustrates my main goal of this world, to slow down airline progression to bring back a bit of realism. I'm not looking to replicate real world conditions. Because in the real world we would not be limited to focus cities and such. But for the games sake, I think we need to put a limit on it.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 23, 2011, 08:27:27 am: Quote from: pilotguy121a on January 23, 2011, 12:57:09 am
Well the reason I would like at least 1 foreign base is for those in Europe where the countries are small. I know it adds a touch of non-realism, but it is to attract a larger number of people for more competition.

But foreign base actually means the ability to create a base on another continent ;) 0 foreign bases means that you can only create bases on your home continent, in your example, all of Europe.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 23, 2011, 03:48:27 pm: :lol: Its been a while since i have played, I completely forgot about that! Ok, I'm going to reset the poll and limit the choices.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: gopats1479 on January 24, 2011, 04:53:44 am: Here's my suggestion:
Save up your tokens until you can afford something long term. Like a world that starts in the 70s and goes until the present. And one foreign base. I don't believe they cost much extra.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 24, 2011, 05:02:48 am: Thing is most of the time people get bored if it's a long world like that.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: 1993matias on January 24, 2011, 08:21:31 am: Ten years max. No more than that, or people get bored. Like me, I get bored every few months, and return half a year later.

But yes, save tokens, and give us some good a/c to begin with, so we can expand rapidly - considering the conditions.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 24, 2011, 09:12:12 am: How about 5 years, and starting in 1969? That would mean fewer mega-airlines.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 24, 2011, 02:11:18 pm: I agree on 10 years max. Whats the most commonly used A/C during the 70s? I realize that some worlds during this time have a massive count of like Caravells or something.

Edit: After looking into it, I think either a 727-200 (2 or 3) or a 737-200 (5) would be doable. Starting date 1970. Game length 10 years. I'm open to the start year and would like to keep the game length 8-10 years.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 24, 2011, 03:13:15 pm: Id rather see a late 80's 90's world. There we see boeing and airbus really starting there aircraft competition. 757 comes out in those years, the A320, 734, 735, etc.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on January 24, 2011, 05:48:10 pm: If in the 1970s we would have DC-9s, 737 Jurassics, 727s, Caravelles, Tu-134, Tu-154, Fokker 27, Fokker 28, A300, DC-10, Il-62, An-26, that chinese 707 copy with slow speed, that japanese thingy, the British Tu-154 copy, BAC-1-11, DC-8 etc. Many more choices.

The most common would probably be either the DC-9-30 or 737-200.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: StephenM on January 24, 2011, 07:12:01 pm: Quote from: Vamerica on January 24, 2011, 03:13:15 pm
Id rather see a late 80's 90's world. There we see boeing and airbus really starting there aircraft competition. 757 comes out in those years, the A320, 734, 735, etc.

I like around 87/88 since thats when the A320 and B734 arrives. Its a nice era as it brings us into I suppose what is now the previous generation of aircraft rather than the current ones, but its still interesting.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 24, 2011, 09:01:15 pm: Game Length: 8 Years
Reason: 5 seems too short, yes there won't be any "mega" airlines, but I don't think you can have mega airlines even with 10 years under these circumstances.

Base Option: 6 Domestic, no foreign.
Reason: Again, if we are trying to go for the most realistic situation, this would provide it.

Starting Gates: 5

Starting Cash: 1,000,000
Reason: Anymore and we would have to sacrifice starting A/C.

Starting Era: See New Poll, I'll let it run for a couple days.

Max Players: 30
Reason: In case more people get interested we can accommodate them.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 26, 2011, 09:36:41 pm: Well as of now they voting is split. 1975 or 1990. I'm more inclined to go with modern day in order to just test this idea out. Then, maybe, we can setup another world after this one is done with different years but same rules. Please let me know your guy's reasoning's for going with what you chose. Thanks
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: AirbusGuy350 on January 26, 2011, 09:58:50 pm: I chose 1990 because until about then airlines would run 767's and DC-10's on routes that were large while today you see more multi frequency with smaller aircraft.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 26, 2011, 10:02:05 pm: I vote to start this world soon :D I have my airline report all ready to be made! :D
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 26, 2011, 11:14:48 pm: I know, I'm going to go ahead and create it now. The name, Realistic World. Password: oldskool
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 27, 2011, 01:00:38 am: (http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6114/optimum.png)

Optimum Airlines Report: http://stephenm.org/smfforum/index.php?topic=12060.0
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: gopats1479 on January 27, 2011, 04:30:51 am: I just realized that the best continent to base in would be NA or Europe. This is because they have many large airports in a reasonable space.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: gopats1479 on January 27, 2011, 04:40:31 am: By the way, I can't make the frequency counts you want me to.
EX:
MD90
DaVinci-Alghero 2/day $86
DaVinci-Amsterdam 2/day $191

I can't go any higher because I want to distribute my AC more equally. I will go higher freq. for Hub-Hub, and maybe larger cities, but my base will be 2/day, unless the airport is REALLY small.
Is this OK?
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 27, 2011, 01:39:48 pm: Yes, thats fine. Especially in Europe this may be much more difficult to do. In the US, I have a few 2 frequency routes to smaller airports. 3 to larger airports. This should be interesting. BTW, I'm not going to kick anyone out for not having enough frequency, that would be ludicrous. Just do your best to emulate real world airlines.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: CHR on January 27, 2011, 06:27:59 pm: Thought I might give it a go - CHR Airlines, based in Munich
Not making nearly as much money as I normally would!
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 27, 2011, 08:46:48 pm: Yeah, i'm sure none of us are used to this. Definitely a change of pace. I'm only making $825,000 DOC. Normally, it would be like 2 million, lol
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: germanpaparoni on January 28, 2011, 05:54:51 pm: I just joined to fill the caribbean/south american market, based at Caracas, Venezuela. Aeroven. Enjoy the tropic with us haha. I would if somebody from airlinemogul read the data i posted about venezuelan airports so i could move some more passengers in national routes
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 29, 2011, 09:05:01 am: Too all that posted, I think you guys should join. Going to be really interesting : )
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: AirbusGuy350 on January 30, 2011, 05:21:34 pm: There is still plenty of room in this world and we have a broker the password is: oldskool
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: steex on January 30, 2011, 07:35:07 pm: I'm not a forum regular, but actually had just been wishing for a realistic world! I have joined as Rising Sun based in Tokyo (HND). I intend to have all of my hubs within Japan to truly fit the definition of "domestic" rather than spreading across all of Asia.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: 1993matias on January 30, 2011, 10:05:25 pm: I think I might join, but is it okay if I don't do 2+ freq. routes? I'd like to base in Africa.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: Vamerica on January 30, 2011, 10:14:46 pm: I'd say yah, just make sure to be realistic and have multi frequency on routes to Cape Town, and other big African destinations.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on January 31, 2011, 02:58:16 am: Yep, just try to stick to realism. Good Luck!
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: 1993matias on February 01, 2011, 10:25:07 am: I join as Central African Airlines in Nairobi, but is it okay for me to expand to (hubs in) other central African countries?
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on February 01, 2011, 03:11:37 pm: Yeah, I don't see why it wouldn't be. You have 6 domestic bases so you can have 6 other hubs in Africa. Good luck to you!
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on February 04, 2011, 01:49:27 pm: If you even have the slightest interest to join, please do so. It really is like a whole new game. Much more realistic than how the game is usually played.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: StephenM on February 04, 2011, 02:43:16 pm: Joined as Aer Solas at Dublin.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on February 04, 2011, 05:57:20 pm: Good luck!
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: CornField on February 05, 2011, 04:34:22 pm: I'm enjoying it so far. Its not really a big change as I like to try and emulate a more realistic connecting schedule. Having massive, over-sized aircraft at the start threw me for a loop to begin with.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on February 05, 2011, 09:07:38 pm: Well i hardly consider the MD-90-55s massive. The only reason why I chose them and 5 of them was because I knew this world wouldn't progress as fast as normal and having 5 starting a/c was probably better than 1 small a/c. Good Luck!
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: 1993matias on February 06, 2011, 01:16:49 am: I see European airlines basing out of their home country, as well as other airlines wanting to expand out of national borders.

Maybe I'm just picky, but isn't this meant to be a realistic world? I don't think an airline named Aeroitalia would have flights out of Paris and London?

I know I have said I maybe would base out of Nigeria, but I'm not sure if it will be possible.

It is just a complaint, you can ignore it if you want. And it is not directed towards Aeroitalia, it was just an example.

Sincerely

Central African Airlines
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: CHR on February 06, 2011, 02:14:47 am: Europe is pretty free when it comes to hubs in real life. Airlines like Ryanair and EasyJet have "bases" all over Europe.

A more in-game problem is that, unlike the US, many of the European countries (and indeed, most other countries) lack a large number of big airports - so you end up with fairly small bases. If you focus on realistic routes (i.e. ones that airlines fly in real life), anything other than the major bases gives you quite a limited selection of destinations - so there isn't much potential to expand your airline.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on February 06, 2011, 02:38:02 am: Quote from: 1993matias on February 06, 2011, 01:16:49 am
I see European airlines basing out of their home country, as well as other airlines wanting to expand out of national borders.

Maybe I'm just picky, but isn't this meant to be a realistic world? I don't think an airline named Aeroitalia would have flights out of Paris and London?

I know I have said I maybe would base out of Nigeria, but I'm not sure if it will be possible.

It is just a complaint, you can ignore it if you want. And it is not directed towards Aeroitalia, it was just an example.

Sincerely

Central African Airlines

Now I would agree with you on this but we are not trying to replicate real airlines. Just emulate their fleet decisions and frequencies on routes.
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: steex on February 06, 2011, 11:46:08 pm: Regarding multi-national airlines, I think it's a "to each his own" sort of thing. Personally, I prefer to observe real-world domestic vs. foreign rules, which will include keeping all of my hubs within Japan and observing real-world fifth freedom rights for any alliance routes.

In the real world, though, the EU allows airlines based there to fly any intra-EU route regardless of home country. Also, LAN Group is a consortium of several airlines based in multiple countries, and I think it's reasonable for people to create an airline that way as well (particularly in Middle East, Africa, and South America).
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on February 11, 2011, 03:14:29 am: Come on guys, only 14 airlines for a whole world? So unrealistic. I dare you to join and compete in this awesome world! :D
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: 1993matias on February 11, 2011, 09:23:06 am: Yes! Join the world and have a fun and challenging experience. If you are tired of the same normal worlds, you'll be happy in this world - be a regional airline connecting the small towns with multiple frequencies and small aircraft, or be the international airline with dozens of flights to the huge cities!

Come join and have fun!
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: BINDU on February 14, 2011, 03:48:06 am: Just joined as CAAC based in PEK!
Title: Re: Realistic World?
Post by: pilotguy121a on February 28, 2011, 04:17:02 pm: I must say, I'm very pleased at how this world been. It is something very different and gives a whole new experience to AM. I also promise that I will create another world like this, but longer as 8 years may be a bit short. Something like 10-12 years. Anyway, we have 5 years left and if you still wish to join, please do so, we welcome all new airlines!
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Post by: 1993matias on February 28, 2011, 04:25:25 pm: I'd rather wait a few months after this world ends, just to take a break from AM. But on the other hand, I can join whenever I want :D
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Post by: pilotguy121a on February 28, 2011, 08:52:25 pm: I know! AM is great but I can't play it with more than 1 world and even then I sometimes flake out. However, this is different because I'm not making insane amounts of cash, which is different. It actually takes some thought and planning to emulate real world airline scheduling.
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Post by: gopats1479 on March 04, 2011, 01:06:22 pm: It's kind of funny...
In this world, my value skyrocketed at one point and I expanded from about 500 mil to 2 bil in a couple months. When I create worlds someday, I will make them realistic.
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Post by: Reyes25 on March 04, 2011, 10:28:15 pm: I'll like to join as Reyes Airlines based in BOS
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Post by: pilotguy121a on March 06, 2011, 04:28:22 am: Please go ahead and join, we welcome all new airlines!
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Post by: Hockeylad777 on March 06, 2011, 10:46:52 pm: I would love to join this world as South Asian Air (http://i.imgur.com/pK7Sg.png)
It will be a couple of days before I have enough tokens but I will be based in Singapore.
Is the that password still oldskool?
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Post by: pilotguy121a on March 07, 2011, 12:57:51 am: COOL!!! More airlines are always encouraged to join! Password is whatever it was in this thread. I have not changed it. GOOD LUCK!
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Post by: pilotguy121a on March 17, 2011, 05:03:33 pm: As the members of this world have been discussing, we are all interested in starting another world, after this one is complete, that is similar to it. Again, we are going for realistic scheduling. I'm very pleased at how it turned out this first time around. However, I think most of us, including myself, fell into the regional rut. Not saying its a bad thing, just I feel we need to have more realism in this aspect. If we are doing a modern world, I would expect Embraers and CRJs not ATRs, especially for longer regional flights.

So, now, I will be creating another thread soon "Realistic World V2," but for now, I want some opinions, besides those from the ingame forum, on what NEW COMERS would like. The new thread will be an accumulation of all the suggestions and rules, as well as further suggestion and final requests before the world is created.

Right now, interest is either in the 1970-1980 or 2000-2010. I'm leaning more toward 2000-2010 as I feel we can have some really cool airlines serving, New Zealand, Mexico, S.A., ect while using the larger Embraers and what not.
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Post by: norge on March 21, 2011, 04:31:44 pm: Just joined in Tunis as Maghreb Airlines. It would be a nice and new experience.
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Post by: 1993matias on March 21, 2011, 04:52:23 pm: Please note there's less than four years left ;)
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Post by: 1993matias on April 23, 2011, 10:00:49 am: Anyone in this world can lease me an A319ACJ? You can take up to 2,5 million €, or whatever you'd like to take. As you can see, I am really in need of that aircraft.

Sincerely

African International Airlines
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Post by: AirbusGuy350 on April 23, 2011, 03:11:00 pm: how many do you want? I can buy up to 5.
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Post by: 1993matias on April 23, 2011, 03:55:28 pm: I'm currently only in need of one.