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Is Building a Terminal Really Worth It ???

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Is Building a Terminal Worth IT

Yes
16 (51.6%)
No
6 (19.4%)
Only in Restricted Airports
9 (29%)

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Voting closed: July 13, 2008, 06:09:33 am

Aerobat

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on: June 28, 2008, 06:09:33 am
Just a quick question

Does Building a Terminal in a City with avaliable Gates really Worth it ??

Because Im struggling to decide between building a 5-6 gate terminal in my main hub of Warsaw. Or should i just rent out another gate.

and also Does the 75% gate fee Really pay off  :?:  :?:  :?:


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Reply #1 on: June 28, 2008, 06:11:34 am
Only REALLY works with airports with >50 mill pax but can work down to 20 mill pax.
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Reply #2 on: June 28, 2008, 06:15:54 am
Don't bother for Warsaw, unless it runs out of gates. Can't see that happening soon. :P
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Reply #3 on: June 29, 2008, 04:14:07 pm
Build a base in LHR and sell it for a much higher price (In the Gate Market)
LHR is going to run out of gate. It's only a matter of time.......

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Reply #4 on: June 29, 2008, 05:31:36 pm
There are really only two main reasons why you should build a terminal if you need it, 1) if you go past the 20 gate limit (Is that still in the game?), and 2) if you run out of gates at the airport and would like to expand.


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Reply #5 on: June 29, 2008, 06:47:58 pm
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There are really only two main reasons why you should build a terminal if you need it, 1) if you go past the 20 gate limit (Is that still in the game?), and 2) if you run out of gates at the airport and would like to expand.


cap is at 25 gates, which probably should be reduced to 20. and it should still be in game, if it's not working in-game, it needs to be fixed.
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Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 12:39:22 am
OK, Can I go above 25 base gates if I build a terminal?  I hit my limit for the first time and never tried this button but I dont want to throw away money if I cant use the gates...  yes I read the help section but no where does it state that I will be able to rent more then 25 gates

Building Terminals
Terminals are purchasable in the Build Terminal link under the Gates menu. Terminals allow extra gates in areas where there may be no gates left. In order to build a terminal, you must have a base established at the airport. A terminal has a minimum of 5 gates, and the cost of building a gate is significantly more than normal renting of gates. Terminal gates only cost 75% to maintain (their rent is therefore 25% less than regular rental fees), so if one builds a terminal early enough in the round, the construction costs may be recovered through the money saved in reduced gate rental fees.

[edit] Extending Terminals
For every 10th terminal gate built, one rented gate will immediately be returned. If you have both rented and built gates at an airport, and you have 9 built gates, and you need more slots, you are going to have to build 2 gates to accommodate for the lost rented gate.

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Quote from: "LOT 737-300"
There are really only two main reasons why you should build a terminal if you need it, 1) if you go past the 20 gate limit (Is that still in the game?), and 2) if you run out of gates at the airport and would like to expand.


cap is at 25 gates, which probably should be reduced to 20. and it should still be in game, if it's not working in-game, it needs to be fixed.


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Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 01:13:18 am
Maybe cut the number of gates to some reasonable number....? ex. ICN has fewer than 100 gates (83 to be exact) while in AM it has 300, JFK also has about 150 gates (110 to be exact, excluding Terminal 5, and even if we do include Terminal 5, it's no more than 135) while in AM it has 300, even ATL has fewer than 250 gates (232 to be exact). Airports like SFO (which has 95 operational gates) have way too many gates. Not to mention airports like MRY, which have like 6 and can handle aircraft no larger than an MD80.

This I think should make terminal building more worth it.

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Reply #8 on: July 09, 2008, 01:28:43 am
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Maybe cut the number of gates to some reasonable number....? ex. ICN has fewer than 100 gates (83 to be exact) while in AM it has 300, JFK also has about 150 gates (110 to be exact, excluding Terminal 5, and even if we do include Terminal 5, it's no more than 135) while in AM it has 300, even ATL has fewer than 250 gates (232 to be exact). Airports like SFO (which has 95 operational gates) have way too many gates. Not to mention airports like MRY, which have like 6 and can handle aircraft no larger than an MD80.

This I think should make terminal building more worth it.

If we used real world numbers, then it could cripple the game really badly (gate hording would run wild(er), the maximum rental limit would be set at 5 rather than 25 because of it, it would be pretty bad. Not to mention we don't have r/l data on how many gates each airport has (way too many in the game). Runway restrictions I hear are in the works, at least before I had that short hiatus on playing the game, so it can probebly cancel out most of the large aircrafts (like that MD-80 to MRY) unless some kind of runway extension is done. I think the current model is pretty good.


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Reply #9 on: July 09, 2008, 01:37:31 am
NO NO my current question is Can I rent more than 25 gates (250 slots) if I build a terminal???

there are still plenty of gates left it just wont let me rent them...

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Reply #10 on: July 09, 2008, 01:42:08 am
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NO NO my current question is Can I rent more than 25 gates (250 slots) if I build a terminal???


No, max is 25 rented gates.
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Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 01:46:07 am
Yeah, after you build a terminal, you need to build gates. You can have more than 25 gates though in a terminal, and at last check, you don't have to use them all up right away like you do with rented gates.


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Reply #12 on: July 09, 2008, 01:51:44 am
Hmmmm I'm confused I just logged into world 8 to look at the #1 player... they have more then 25 gates... did it change in world 9???

 ...........Code ...ICAO... Airport Name ....... Gates ...Utilisation
View..... FRA .....EDDF ......Frankfurt  ............60 .......99%
View..... AMS..... EHAM..... Amsterdam ....... 55....... 98%
View..... BCN .....LEBL...... Barcelona  ...........51...... 99%
View .....LGW..... EGKK .....London Gatwick. 52 .......99%





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NO NO my current question is Can I rent more than 25 gates (250 slots) if I build a terminal???


No, max is 25 rented gates.


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Reply #13 on: July 09, 2008, 01:55:19 am
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Hmmmm I'm confused I just logged into world 8 to look at the #1 player... they have more then 25 gates... did it change in world 9???


That player has up to 23 rented gates, and then has a terminal on top.
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Reply #14 on: July 09, 2008, 07:11:54 am
ive decided to build a terminal at all four of my hubs ... because face it they only cost 18-22 mill and i make that in 3 AM days, i have way to much money to spend lol with only a DOP of 6-7 million depending on LF. Lets see if it pays off and start having some savings i could do some calculations e.g how much i save a month. but really cant be bothered now.. i might post numbers up later


 

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