Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => Private World Discussion & Invitation => Topic started by: 1993matias on July 31, 2019, 05:16:45 pm
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After having talked to some of you in the discord chat, I have decided to go forward and create a new, long world.
We are some players who enjoy taking an airline and grow it slowly to create a sense of natural progression and history. In the last long world I have been part of, I made sure to document the fleet (https://airlinemogul.com/world_info.php?wid=3270&t=17)my airline had. I know some other airlines make news every once in a while.
The point of this post is to promote this world - it is always more fun with more people playing! The world will be as follows:
- Created on Friday, 9th of August in European evening. 24 hours to set up your airline before world clock starts.
- Run from 60s until today
- Full world, generous starting aircraft selection
- Many/unlimited number of bases
- Frequent pruning of bankrupt and inactive airlines to reduce congestion
- New flight block calculation for realistic flight times
- Beta version of the new maintenance mechanics
- No password
Any suggestions and requests are very welcome! I'll be happy to welcome you in this world
Disclaimer: This world is not an official, public world, I am creating it on behalf of me as a player, not as a staff member
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I would be interested to join this world since my old one is ending soon. Oh, and look at my suggestions.
Have a good day.
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Looks like this is going to be an awesome world :)
I will probably join once the current world I'm playing in comes to an end. Or I might start a small airline in yours, and only really work on expanding it several years down the line.
Long worlds are my favorite!
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I know you like long worlds, the best would be one of yours, but I'll try to imitate it :)
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**Blushes**
I'm sure you'll go above & beyond. But the cool thing is if we play in it together!
So see you around Aug. 9th!
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By the way, what are the changes linked to this part:
"New flight block calculation for realistic flight times" ?
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By the way, what are the changes linked to this part:
"New flight block calculation for realistic flight times" ?
The current way the game works is supposing instant acceleration to top speed (poor passengers) and instant deceleration at the gate (poor cleanup crew).
The new way (which will be implemented "shortly") is to have aircraft acceleration and deceleration more moderate, but most importantly: holdting times depending on airport size. A flight London-Amsterdam might become 50% longer in time now!
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Ha ha funny reply, to imagine those poor passengers.
The updates sound good and logical!
What with this as well as the new maintenance system, we will have to adapt our tactics a bit, which is a positive thing.
For short haul flights, I think the differences will be easy enough to manage. For the jumbo jets on long distances, I think it may become somewhat more complicated to handle, but we shall see...
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The biggest difference will be on the short-haul flights. You won't be able to do nearly as many. On the other hand, long haul flying won't be affected that much, since most of the time will be spent at cruise speed anyway. You will see a slight increase in flight time, but it's maybe 5-10%
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Thunderstruck, you wouldn't mind me using your posts on your world's in-game forum as inspiration? You got quite an active forum there, I'm impressed!
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Go for it my friend!
Things have quieted down a fair bit in my in-world forum, but initially other players were fairly active in posting too. I find it's more fun when players post some, makes the world feel more alive, and keeps the players more involved.
I plan to join your new world, it's starting today, right?
P.S. thanks for your earlier explanations (above) on the new flight times, I forgot to acknowledge your response.
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Here is my id if you need it.
834243
Starting today right?
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I'll make the world later today, yes, it will be announced in this thread
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The world is now open! Please note the following differences, as this world has new features: New maintenance formula and new route block time calculation.
Please note that routes will take longer time now, since take-off, climb, approach and landings are included in the calculations now. Bigger airports will have more holding time than smaller airports. Routes created before this change will keep their block time until updated.
Maintenance is no longer automatic. You have to manually schedule maintenance for your aircraft. Each fleet has a maintenance need which you must schedule. It is not necessary to schedule maintenance for each aircraft individually, as long as you fulfill the need (see more under 'Aircraft Maintenance').
More information about these changes can be found in the Tips and Tricks subforum in the in-game forum
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Now also featuring an official game broker to suit your needs!
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Enjoy this map of the airline routes in March 1968:
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=SYD-OOL/NTL/ADL/CBR/BNE/MCY/MEL/LST/MKY/HBA%0d%0aAEP-SLA/BRC/MVD/COR/NQN/FTE/TUC/IGR/MDZ%0d%0aJNB-SDD/DUR/MPM/VFA/HRE/APL/FBM%0d%0aSIN-DAD/HKG/DPS/CNX/MNL/PEN/SYX/HKT/CAN/KNO/SGN/UPG/JOG/DMK/KUL/BKI/CGK/CXR/KCH/BKK/SUB%0d%0aPEK-PVG/CAN/NAY/HKG/YCU/SWA/ZUH/CTU%0d%0aBOM-HYD/MAA/PNQ/BLR/GOI/CCU/AMD/DEL/LKO/COK%0d%0aDEL-BOM/BLR/AMD/COK/HYD/CCU/MAA%0d%0aSVO-MUC/TXL/EGO/DUS/AER/OSL/LED/FRA/WAW/HAM%0d%0aLHR-PMI/MUC/MAN/FRA/ORY/BCN/DUB/FCO/CDG/MAD/AMS%0d%0aLED-BUD/CPH/GOT/OTP/VIE/SOF/KRK/PRG/KBP/HEL/DME/VKO/SIP/VNO/SXF/ARN/RIX/WAW/OSL/SVO%0d%0aVIE-BEG/STR/KIV/SZG/CRL/TRN/INN/MRS/LUX/SPU/LYS/GDN/KRK/OTP/SOF/TIA/LIN%0d%0aATL-CSG/BHM/ALX/MAC/PDK/ASN/MCN/AHN/EUF/ANB/ABY/AUO/CHA/GAD/AGS%0d%0aSEA-SLC/SFO/PDX/LAS/YVR/YQU/YYC/PHX/OAK/BZN/SJC/LAX%0d%0aYYZ-YWG/YUL/YOW/DTW/YQB/JFK/YQT/ORD/YQM/YHZ%0d%0aSFO-PDX/LAX/LAS/DEN/SAN/YVR%0d%0aSDQ-CUR/PUJ/MIA/STT/SJU/BQN/POP/PTP/PLS/CCS/STX/SXM/MBJ/PAP/BOG/STI/SKB/AUA/PTY,KIN-SJU/SDQ/MCO/ATL/NAS/MSY/MBJ/CUN/PAP/BOG/PUJ/PTY/MIA/PLS&MS=wls&MC=LPA&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=-)
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Oh thats cool. Just wait till all the red connect, you'll be able to fly anywhere in the world soon. 8)
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I have a few questions about this new maintenance thing.
1) Is there any punishment, other than bigger maintenance bills, to stop people ignoring this.
for example:- I could buy a new aircraft, run it for 3,4,5 years then just scrap it. NO maintenance.
2). new aircraft generally don't need maintenance for a number of years/cycles but the players get punished from the start of the game. Why?
( surely all aircraft should be exempt for, at least, the first year. Thus, the player can establish themselves before maintenance kicks in)
3) does the maintenance times change for piston aircraft to jet aircraft?
4) Does one aircraft not flying really cover maintenance of ALL similar aircraft?
( So, I can have a fleet of over 200 B.737-200's and only one is required to be a non-flyer)
regards
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I have a few questions about this new maintenance thing.
1) Is there any punishment, other than bigger maintenance bills, to stop people ignoring this.
for example:- I could buy a new aircraft, run it for 3,4,5 years then just scrap it. NO maintenance.
The punishment is that you have to buy new aircraft all the time. To be honest, I don't think we have thought about the balancing issues. Feel free to try it out, but I suspect that maintenance costs will be much, much higher (i.e. instead of scheduling maintenance preemptively, your maintenance team will have to react to issues after they appear).
2). new aircraft generally don't need maintenance for a number of years/cycles but the players get punished from the start of the game. Why?
( surely all aircraft should be exempt for, at least, the first year. Thus, the player can establish themselves before maintenance kicks in)
All aircraft need maintenance for day one, there are daily and weekly checks. This is what the game tries to emulate. For older aircraft the maintenance price is higher due to more parts being replaced rather than more time spent on ground.
3) does the maintenance times change for piston aircraft to jet aircraft?
Good question, let's ask Stephen
4) Does one aircraft not flying really cover maintenance of ALL similar aircraft?
( So, I can have a fleet of over 200 B.737-200's and only one is required to be a non-flyer)
Yes, you can have a non-flying aircraft covering the maintenance of other aircraft. Your awesome scheduling team is very good at keeping all routes covered without bothering you :) One aircraft for each 200 is maybe a little optimistic, it would maybe be around 10-15 or so - but I have yet to grow such a big fleet.
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Hi,
2). new aircraft generally don't need maintenance for a number of years/cycles but the players get punished from the start of the game. Why?
( surely all aircraft should be exempt for, at least, the first year. Thus, the player can establish themselves before maintenance kicks in)
All aircraft need maintenance for day one, there are daily and weekly checks. This is what the game tries to emulate. For older aircraft the maintenance price is higher due to more parts being replaced rather than more time spent on ground.
I would disagree with your statement. Daily/ weekly checks are normally done by the pilot/crew before each flight and especially 1st flight of day. This is the responsibility of the crew as part of their jobs, rather than a maintenance crew running around every aircraft daily. Especially on new aircraft.
I do understand that this is a test game to the changes but needs some fine tuning.
All different aircraft variations need maintenance as a 100 seat aircraft can't cover a 140 seat aircraft over a longer distance. Then can you explain the difference, other than the engines, on the 2 aircraft below.
Douglas DC-9-15 80 487 1310 0.38 Pratt & Whitney JT8D-1 738 €33,763,328 Buy
Douglas DC-9-11 80 487 1310 0.38 P&W JT8D-5 738 €33,769,031 Buy
With exactly the same seats/speed/distance and fuel usage. I fail to see why either of these aircraft can't substitute the other and therefore be classed as the same under the maintenance issue
Regards
Scotia Airlines
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I would disagree with your statement. Daily/ weekly checks are normally done by the pilot/crew before each flight and especially 1st flight of day. This is the responsibility of the crew as part of their jobs, rather than a maintenance crew running around every aircraft daily. Especially on new aircraft.[...]
I am not an airline professional, so I am no expert in this field. But I'm sure we can agree that the new maintenance formula is better than the old one.
[...] Then can you explain the difference, other than the engines, on the 2 aircraft below.
Douglas DC-9-15 80 487 1310 0.38 Pratt & Whitney JT8D-1 738 €33,763,328 Buy
Douglas DC-9-11 80 487 1310 0.38 P&W JT8D-5 738 €33,769,031 Buy
With exactly the same seats/speed/distance and fuel usage. I fail to see why either of these aircraft can't substitute the other and therefore be classed as the same under the maintenance issue
I am currently going through almost all Jane's All The World's Aircraft to clear up issues like this. The new data will be used in a new aircraft database made available when complete. Unfortunately, due to limited free time, we can only progress slowly.
Some discrepancies have already been fixed in the new database after going through data, but since aircraft are already in use, we have chosen not to edit the existing database.
I hope this helped clear up your questions :)
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(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=ATL-TCL/ORL/BNA/SUS/TYS/PKB/ISZ/CHA/LWB/EWN/SHD/MVC/SGT/TRI/HRO/GAD/FLO/WMH/SRC/DHN/UTM/ETS/MGW/MEI/OSU/GNV/AGS/PGR/TBN/CPS/AVL/SAV/USA/CMI/CSG/BLF/CKB/PBF/MQY/ILN/HKY/HOT/BFM/AHN/CGI/BHM/GLH/BKG/FKR/DSI/ISO/PIB/AEX/ALX/LOU/LAF/BVX/MSL/MWA/GTR/HNC/MAC/CAE/LRF/BMG/TOI/HAO/MLB/PGV/TUP/COI/OWB/PHF/ASN/OCF/VRB/EVV/PDK/OXD/GSP/LCK/MCN/INT/CRW/LUK/DCU/LWV/LFT/OAJ/HHH/FAY/BKW/BMI/EUF/UST/DEC/LYH/HSV/HTS/MKL/BLV/ANB/TLH/MIE/MGY/MGM/JBR/LBE/ELD/BQK/HUF/PAH/ABY/AWM/MEO/GPT/VLD/NEW/GUF/MLU/AUO/SOP/FPR/LAL%0d%0aHKG-CGK/HND/PVG/PEK/CKG,SIN-KUL/KMG/CXR/SYX/BKI/BOM/MNL/TPE/PVG/HAK/SZX/DAD/SGN/BLR/DEL/CTU/PEN/CAN/CNX/DMK/KCH/HKG/HKT/CGK/CKG/SUB/KNO/MAA/UPG/BKK/BPN/DPS/JOG/XIY%0d%0aPEK-NRT/CAN/SHA/HND/SZX/CTU/HGH/KMG/PVG/ICN/NAY/HKG/CKG/YCU/KIX/ITM/SWA/CTS/FUK/ZUH%0d%0aHND-NKM/KIX/KCZ/AOJ/KMQ/ICN/MYJ/MMJ/UKB/YGJ/HNA/PUS/KIJ/NTQ/TAK/ITM/AXT/UBJ/NGO/FKS/SDJ/IWK/IZO/TTJ/NRT/HAC/OKJ/HKD/GMP/MSJ/CTS/IBR/TOY/HIJ/CJU/FSZ/FUK/SYO/OIT%0d%0aLED-WRO/HEL/DME/SVX/VKO/VIE/BTS/SIP/VNO/ROV/SXF/FCO/GDN/ARN/MSQ/KTW/WAW/AMS/SVO/TAY/BRU/RIX/UFA/BUD/IST/KUF/SOF/OSL/WMI/GOT/OTP/BEG/KBP/CPH/KZN/KRK/PRG/KIV/TLL/DUB%0d%0aYYZ-MSP/YHZ/JFK/YWG/ORD/YUL/YOW/ATL/DTW/YQB/PHL/YQT/BOS/YQM%0d%0aSEA-SFO/YYC/LAS/SMF/YQU/BOI/BLI/PHX/OAK/PDX/BZN/SJC/YVR/LAX/SLC/EUG%0d%0aDEL-HYD/AMD/CCU/GAU/MAA/CCJ/JAI/BOM/PNQ/LKO/BLR/GOI/PAT/COK/BBI%0d%0aLHR-ZRH/LGW/MUC/CDG/FRA/AMS/STN/PMI/BCN/MAN/FCO/ORY/MAD/DUB%0d%0aVIE-OTP/SOF/TIA/LIN/BEG/STR/KIV/SZG/CRL/TRN/INN/MRS/LUX/SPU/LYS/GDN/KRK%0d%0aBOM-PEK/COK/HYD/MAA/PNQ/BLR/GOI/CCU/AMD/DEL/LKO%0d%0aORD-BUF/SDF/YYZ/MEM/MDW/CLE/IND/GRR/DFW/PIT/CMH/MSP/ATL/MCI/CVG/MKE/BNA/OMA/IAD/DTW/CLT,STL-GRR/SBN/DAY/MKE/HSV/CLE/YYZ/ATL/DSM/MSP/IND/LEX/FWA/ORD/XNA/TUL/JFK/BLV/MCO/SGF/BNA/SDF/CVG/LIT/OMA/PIA/EVV/CLT/MCI/MSN/DFW/MLI/MDW/MEM/ICT/DTW/DEN/CID%0d%0aNAS-HAV/VRA/RSD/GDT/ATC/FPO/TPA/PLS/MHH/ATL/GCM/MCO/GGT/ELH/SJU/ZSA/MIA/GHB/MBJ,SDQ-CUN/BOG/MBJ/PLS/MIA/SXM/SKB/CLT/BQN/SJU/SFG/MCO/PUJ/CCS/POP/POS/LSP/STI/LRM/PTP/ATL/PAP/PTY/STT/PSE/STX/BON/SBH/ANU/CUR/GDT/AUA,KIN-PUJ/BOG/ATL/MSY/SDQ/SJU/MIA/PTY/NAS/MCO/PLS/PAP/CUN/AUA/MBJ%0d%0aSYD-MKY/HBA/OOL/NTL/ADL/CBR/BNE/MCY/MEL/LST%0d%0aSVO-HAM/MUC/TXL/EGO/DUS/AER/OSL/LED/FRA/WAW%0d%0aLAX-PHX/LAS/ORD/SJC/BUR/SNA/OAK/SAN/LGB,SFO-SEA/DEN/SJC/YVR/BUR/PSP/SAN/ONT/LAX/SLC/SBA/YYC/SMF/FAT/OAK/SNA/LAS/DFW/PDX/PHX/LGB/IAH%0d%0aAEP-CRD/UAQ/SLA/EZE/BRC/NQN/ROS/COR/TUC/BHI/FTE/IGR/MVD/MDZ/REL%0d%0aJNB-FBM/SDD/DUR/MPM/VFA/GIZ/HRE/LOS/APL,LOS-TFS%0d%0a&MS=wls&MC=LPA&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=-)
The map is now showing routes in September 1968
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Ah, there I am covering the Midwestern US in red. :)
(No, not like that!)
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Thats how you become the west coast primer airline! No offense to Utech...
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First trans-Atlanic flight courtesy of Fun Airline (hal2003)!
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Really great how players are participating in the in-game forums. We have some really original and fun creations there!
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No active airlines in Africa, only one in the Middle East (based in Jeddah), a few in Europe and Asia and one in Sydney. US competition is fierce, avoid at all costs :P
Come join us in the fun! Remember, we have an active broker and a good aircraft market!
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I am very sorry Matias, but somehow I lost access to my Discord - I tried logging in but they told me that my location was not recognized and required an email confirmation. That location is the same place that I had used my Discord account all the time.
I went to my Gmail to get my Discord account confirmed - and my Gmail did the same thing on me. So now I cannot access my Discord and Gmail. Trying to fix that Gmail problem right now :P
How's the alliance going? I'm sorry that I cannot be on in there :P
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This world is nearing the end. Thank you, everyone, for making it such an enjoyable world!
New features are in the pipeline for AM, I expect them to be ready in a few weeks - just in time for a reboot of this world! These features will make aircraft leases much more attractive, among other things.
I look forward to join you in the next instance of this world! Expected creation is the beginning of May.