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Profitability of large airliners in W10

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on: August 27, 2008, 08:32:09 pm
So, in a 1970s round i tried to add a single DC-10-10 to my fleet of some 100 Tu-134s, and suddenly i was losing lots of money :D . What is it like to fly B767s, A330s, A340s and B777s in W10 (the 1990s round)? Do they make enough money to make up for maintainence costs? Whats the average DOP for each type?
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Reply #1 on: August 27, 2008, 08:42:31 pm
So, in a 1970s round i tried to add a single DC-10-10 to my fleet of some 100 Tu-134s, and suddenly i was losing lots of money :D . What is it like to fly B767s, A330s, A340s and B777s in W10 (the 1990s round)? Do they make enough money to make up for maintainence costs? Whats the average DOP for each type?

I'm going to guess that with the revamping of the maintenance costs, it will be very difficult to make large (if any) profits with these planes.

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Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 09:35:03 pm
For long haul, you'll make 200k-300k per plane, depending on the routes.
But rest assured, you'll lose money on them in the long run...  :(


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Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 02:16:55 pm
Thanks for the answers, i wasnt really expecting much of these types anyway :D

How I long for the days of the Connies, 114Ds, and 990s.

Agreed. The only things in the current situation, would be the Airbus A319, Boeing 757-200, and possibly the Boeing 767-200ER and Airbus A310...

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Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 05:49:14 pm
You need to have a high DOP for the larger planes.  250k min. for 757. 275k for 762E (7600nm ver). I would say the rule of thumb on the bigger planes is 300k dop. Thats just to break even. Remember that maint. increases every month. In 3 years(game wise) a 762E cost just under 6M in maint. So @ 300k DOP, after 3 yrs, your making 1.2M in profit off that 762E. (300*24= 7.2M-6M=1.2M) <Gate cost not included>

 Also, you have to look at the cost to buy that plane. 150M for 762E. You dont spend 150M to make 1M overall profit. Thats just not good business.

If you able to make a high DOP thats great, but for most of the players, only a few large airplanes would suffice.

Then again, if your bases are ATL, ORD, LAX, LHR the likes. Then it doesnt really matter, you could fly 744s all over the place and prob break even. Bigger airports = Bigger income = Bigger airplanes. ^_^
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Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 11:39:30 pm
You need to have a high DOP for the larger planes.  250k min. for 757. 275k for 762E (7600nm ver). I would say the rule of thumb on the bigger planes is 300k dop. Thats just to break even. Remember that maint. increases every month. In 3 years(game wise) a 762E cost just under 6M in maint. So @ 300k DOP, after 3 yrs, your making 1.2M in profit off that 762E. (300*24= 7.2M-6M=1.2M) <Gate cost not included>

 Also, you have to look at the cost to buy that plane. 150M for 762E. You dont spend 150M to make 1M overall profit. Thats just not good business.

If you able to make a high DOP thats great, but for most of the players, only a few large airplanes would suffice.

Then again, if your bases are ATL, ORD, LAX, LHR the likes. Then it doesnt really matter, you could fly 744s all over the place and prob break even. Bigger airports = Bigger income = Bigger airplanes. ^_^
With the bigger bases comes more competition, so while the initial DOP might look nice, it won't last long.  8)


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Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 03:08:34 am
And that's why, I put my bigger planes like my Airbus A319 and Boeing 737-500 on my larger flights, and I generally use Bae Jetstream J61 and KFC planes on my smaller ones, its just easier to do and cheaper..


 

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