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Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: StephenM on October 08, 2007, 11:44:21 am

Well its come to the stage where we have sufficient data in the game to start off earlier than origionally planned. Thanks to the excellent efforts of Airline Mogul staff over the last number of days we can now start in 1950. We did however always plan to reset to 1960. So what do you think?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: blue25 on October 08, 2007, 11:53:01 am

1940 :lol:
Maybe 1950 we can go back to
(I wish we could go back to the "air ship" days)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 08, 2007, 12:23:56 pm

1950 would be much more fun. That said, I would like to get a list of aircraft for that era with market prices.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 08, 2007, 12:33:44 pm

1960.. more aircrafts with better fuel usage and faster... and longer range

Edit: It will also mess up with my sig..Comets dont go in 50's

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 08, 2007, 01:32:36 pm

Quote from: "MrOrange"

That said, I would like to get a list of aircraft for that era with market prices.

I will send one out to you and other official brokers when I am done adding the aircrafts, and Stephen, Will, and other members on the team done altering the prices.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 08, 2007, 01:37:21 pm

Thanks.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Singaporeair on October 08, 2007, 02:22:58 pm

1947  :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: crcole on October 08, 2007, 02:24:37 pm

Quote from: "Jps"

1960.. more aircrafts with better fuel usage and faster... and longer range

Edit: It will also mess up with my sig..Comets dont go in 50's

Actually the Comet went into service in 1952

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 08, 2007, 02:24:40 pm

1903..  :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 08, 2007, 02:25:17 pm

Quote from: "Jps"

1903..  :lol:

Nope... no aircraft to use...

Quote from: "SIA"

1947

We don't have the fuel stats for years before 1949... planes? We have.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 08, 2007, 02:26:49 pm

Why don't we start in 1900 and have players invent their own aircraft? :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 08, 2007, 02:27:52 pm

Quote from: "MrOrange"

Why don't we start in 1900 and have players invent their own aircraft? :lol:

That or have them drive a car over the cliff :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: UAT on October 08, 2007, 02:36:52 pm

are population, passengers and gate prices going to be lower?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 08, 2007, 02:39:11 pm

Quote from: "dktc"

Quote from: "MrOrange"

Why don't we start in 1900 and have players invent their own aircraft? :lol:

That or have them drive a car over the cliff :lol:

 :lol: I kinda like the idea :) Make them buy a car and rent slots at a cliff, it might work out pretty nice.

@UAT: Nope.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: StephenM on October 08, 2007, 02:46:50 pm

Quote from: "UAT"

are population, passengers and gate prices going to be lower?

For the moment no, everything will be in ~2004 prices.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rocketboy on October 08, 2007, 04:27:32 pm

I think the transitions from piston to turboprop to jet would be interesting and you get more range of that if you start in 1950.

Tom

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: UAT on October 08, 2007, 04:42:53 pm

Quote from: "StephenM"

Quote from: "UAT"

are population, passengers and gate prices going to be lower?

For the moment no, everything will be in ~2004 prices.

but in 1950 there was alot less passengers then 2007.

less passengers means less demand. will there be less airports as well or will airport data not change??

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 08, 2007, 04:44:48 pm

1950 sounds good to me :P

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 08, 2007, 04:46:07 pm

Data will not change. The demand formula has been slightly altered though.

With this amount of players, we can't afford to have less airports. In fact, Rick is adding more into the database.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Pacific on October 08, 2007, 05:01:13 pm

1960, because you can at least fly 8,000km with a 707.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: AzZellon on October 08, 2007, 06:29:35 pm

I pick Jets.. so 1960's for me.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 08, 2007, 06:30:30 pm

My vote is for the 60's to.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 08, 2007, 06:32:14 pm

Quote from: "AzZellon"

I pick Jets.. so 1960's for me.

If we do the 50's there will still be jets toards the middle of the era.  The Boieng 707-020 will enter service in 1954.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Singaporeair on October 08, 2007, 06:33:53 pm

oh yes,change my vote to 60s please
I don't want to operate one more hub to reach europe.  :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 08, 2007, 07:15:40 pm

Let's just say 50's would be a lot more interesting :wink:
And yes, jets would be available about the time you guys could afford them :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: StephenM on October 08, 2007, 07:33:58 pm

Jets are over-rated. Nothing beats an ATR! :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 08, 2007, 09:15:38 pm

Quote from: "StephenM"

Jets are over-rated. Nothing beats an ATR! :D

An ATR in 1950? :shock:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 08, 2007, 09:22:30 pm

The poll is pretty close right now.  I thought for sure at the begining of it that we would go to 1950 for sure.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Air Elbonia on October 09, 2007, 12:09:06 am

In the year 1950 (literally that year, not counting any following year) the longest range aircraft is 5520nm.

in the year 1960 (literally that year, not counting any following year) the longest range aircraft is 5643nm.

in the year 1970 (literally that year, not counting any following year) the longest range aircraft is 8079nm (and that aircraft becomes available literally in 1970, closest in the early 60s is in the low 6000's and in 67 we get a plane that flies 7800~ nm).

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: bkuyers on October 09, 2007, 12:26:57 am

60s is better

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: blue25 on October 09, 2007, 12:29:51 am

Pre Depression Era? :lol: 1920s or 1930s? KLM and Quantas were airlines back then :shock:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Pacific on October 09, 2007, 12:38:56 am

Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services

a.k.a. QANTAS

Sorry, couldn't resist. :lol:

The 1960s also mean 737s and Diesel 9s! :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: CornField on October 09, 2007, 01:15:28 am

Quote from: "dktc"

Let's just say 50's would be a lot more interesting :wink:
And yes, jets would be available about the time you guys could afford them :lol:

Oh, yeah !!!!!


DC-3's, Convair 240's, Viscounts, Electras   Now  we're talking........

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 03:19:45 am

1950, but i will like much more 1927, when VARIG has started operations  :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 09, 2007, 03:25:17 am

Technically, I have added most aircrafts with 9 seats or above since 1920 (or at least they are in the datasheet with some missing information that is not available :roll: ). However, we would be missing out on the flying boats if we start in the 20's or 30's. The reason for excluding the flying boats is that they can't land on tarmac... simple :P

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: blue25 on October 09, 2007, 03:26:54 am

we need the one and only DC-1 (really, I meant one and only :lol: )

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 03:58:48 am

Quote from: "blue25"

we need the one and only DC-1 (really, I meant one and only :lol: )

i want this one /o/  :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 13lamaustin on October 09, 2007, 04:29:51 am

i want 1960- you can start with jets!!

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Osprey on October 09, 2007, 04:59:15 am

Quote from: "Air Elbonia"

In the year 1950 (literally that year, not counting any following year) the longest range aircraft is 5520nm.

 What aircraft would that be?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Air Elbonia on October 09, 2007, 05:10:16 am

Bristol 167 Brabazon: 5520nm
followed by:

Lockheed Super Constellation L-1049: 5405nm
Lockheed R6V Constitution: 5386nm
Breda-Zappata BZ-308: 4781nm
Douglas DC-6B: 4715nm
Douglas DC-6: 4580nm

all immediately available in 1950.

in 1960, we have...

Douglas DC-7C: 5643nm
Canadair CL-44: 5583nm
(bristol brabazon, lockheed's, bz-308, dc-6b)
Douglas DC-7A: 4602
(dc-6)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Max2147 on October 09, 2007, 05:34:12 am

Depends how long the game runs before a reset.  Multiple worlds might allow a later reset (i.e. longer games).

The 50's alone would be neat, with the transition from props to jets coming at the end of the decade.  But a long game (lasting more than 10 years) starting in 1960 would also be cool because it would include the introduction of small jets (737, DC-9) and widebodies.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 09, 2007, 06:24:35 am

Multi-world is not done yet. It is not going to be implement at this coming round. The poll is on this coming reset only. The round will last for about 10 years game time.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: extra_kurt on October 09, 2007, 07:23:42 am

Scenario is after World War 2..

Make it 1946

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: kentip on October 09, 2007, 08:42:08 am

So what's the conclusion?

I need to make plans......

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 10:37:49 am

Quote from: "Jps"

1903..  :lol:

 :lol: Im imagining a dominant airline in the game with hundreds of thousand of wright flyers

1950's for me  :)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 09, 2007, 10:40:21 am

:D.. touching and landing every 30mins just to get to one destination

yea but if we got the 50's aircrafts id do 1950

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 10:41:50 am

any chance we can have pics of the aircraft when buying them? Some aircraft did in the last round, but because we are not really used to really old aircraft, We need to see the type of plane were buying...

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 09, 2007, 10:43:53 am

^ I wouldnt need that.. i couldnt even view the aircraft pics for the last round.. HELP ME stephen  :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 10:47:51 am

also how about world events where aircraft can help in? I.e. the berlin airlift?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on October 09, 2007, 12:09:09 pm

Quote from: "iranair777"

also how about world events where aircraft can help in? I.e. the berlin airlift?

That was organized by the UK&US airforce, not by some airline...

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 01:38:16 pm

Quote from: "Blue Sky Mine"

Quote from: "iranair777"

also how about world events where aircraft can help in? I.e. the berlin airlift?

That was organized by the UK&US airforce, not by some airline...

yeah i know, But like airline tycoon the game there are some missions where the airline that you had, had to send aid etc. to the relevant city and the berlin airlift is one of my examples

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 03:42:07 pm

just add the typical "this day in history" code, it´s available on tons of sites  :)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 04:35:49 pm

no one understands me :( I mean (will be easier to understand for people who have played airline tycoon the game) that the airlines can assist in past aviation aid events such as the berlin airlift etc etc...

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 04:39:31 pm

I played that game and I get your point, I was talking about something else

Imagine 4000 airlines assisting one event, it would be a marginal response on every way

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: kkmh on October 09, 2007, 05:22:48 pm

It would be cool to start in the 60s

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 05:39:39 pm

Quote from: "kkmh"

It would be cool to start in the 60s

what's the problem to start in 1950? only because don't have jets??? wait only 4 game years or 48 real days to get some jets  :D

1950 have Ju-52/3m, DC-3, DC-2, but probably those planes won't exists if the game starts in 1960  :cry:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 05:39:56 pm

is the terminal building feature still gonna be on?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 05:42:12 pm

the game will have legs???

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: LOT 737-300 on October 09, 2007, 05:57:21 pm

I say we start in the 950s. Only because some planes seem to have their production start then in the game.  :twisted:

Really, I don't care when it starts, as long as the game is good.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 09, 2007, 06:41:44 pm

The game will be good no matter where it starts.  However I still have to pull for 1960.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: StephenM on October 09, 2007, 06:44:27 pm

Quote from: "LOT 737-300"

I say we start in the 950s. Only because some planes seem to have their production start then in the game.  :twisted:

Its just to keep the Cargo only planes out of the loop. :)

The game will have a lot of updated features, there may not be as many new features as I'd like. Personally projects I had hoped to do were scaled down quite a lot.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 06:51:56 pm

when is the poll gonna finish?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 07:01:58 pm

Quote from: "747-300"

the game will have legs???

the game is flying as far as I can see

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 07:03:44 pm

but now we will operate DC-8, 707, DC-6 anyway, and why we can do a flight departing from Rio de Janeiro to Europe without legs???  :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 07:14:41 pm

Quote from: "rodendack"

Quote from: "747-300"

the game will have legs???

the game is flying as far as I can see

I think he means that 'can we do long routes which no aircraft can do in stages just like the good old days?'

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 07:37:21 pm

Quote from: "iranair777"

Quote from: "rodendack"

Quote from: "747-300"

the game will have legs???

the game is flying as far as I can see

I think he means that 'can we do long routes which no aircraft can do in stages just like the good old days?'

exact, like Panair do Brasil routes for Europe departing from GIG  :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Air Elbonia on October 09, 2007, 07:49:11 pm

Unless a miracle falls into my lap, and i sort out multileg routes rules and code it in in the next 24 hours, unfortunately no. no connection/multileg/stopover/etc type flights for next age. sorry.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 08:08:07 pm

Quote from: "Air Elbonia"

Unless a miracle falls into my lap, and i sort out multileg routes rules and code it in in the next 24 hours, unfortunately no. no connection/multileg/stopover/etc type flights for next age. sorry.

*cries*

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 08:10:53 pm

not even a simple leg, like GIG-GCLP-LHR??? :cry:

in this round, the legs system can be inserted???  :roll:

whithout this system we can't do routes conecting South America or Central America to Europe, only from the northeast of Brazil to cities like Lisbon and Madrid :?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 08:12:41 pm

I was joking  :)

I believe that it would be too much of a hazzle to fix connections and stopovers on every one of my next 60 routes, it could work but I don´t like it right now, we´ll have to wait a new era or two and see

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Air Elbonia on October 09, 2007, 08:44:15 pm

Quote from: "747-300"

not even a simple leg, like GIG-GCLP-LHR??? :cry:

in this round, the legs system can be inserted???  :roll:

whithout this system we can't do routes conecting South America or Central America to Europe, only from the northeast of Brazil to cities like Lisbon and Madrid :?

:( simple legs aren't so simple.  they take exceptions, valid and invalid exceptions, a change to the backend as to how the routes are stored... all that fun stuff, and frankly. no one yet has come to an agreement as to how those legs should function, mostly because i fail to see how flights into/out of an airport have zero impact on each other (even when no one is allowed to get "on" at that airport).

It really is scary how things that look simple, half the time are a lot more complex then they appear. and half the things that look complex are a lot more simple then they appear.  That's what coding teaches me.

Closest thing to legs we can get this age is through alliance hubs.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 09, 2007, 09:31:57 pm

He means we should think up complex features for him to code :P  :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: iranair777 on October 09, 2007, 10:00:07 pm

How about you do the legs feature after you get this round up and running? Im guessing it'll be ready by half way in the round, and it will still be useful, and a lot of support for it

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 09, 2007, 10:01:26 pm

why not start mid-decade in 1955? will have the best of both....jets AND the majestic propliners.....

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: papidis on October 09, 2007, 10:23:08 pm

I agree! Mid 50"s would be great....

50's aircrafts would not make leg's from Brasil (my Hub) to Europe. Only if we could make two leg's and on, there would be ok, but...we know it's other theme...

Sorry about my english...

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: blue25 on October 09, 2007, 10:24:37 pm

1920s to 1930s :twisted:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Osprey on October 09, 2007, 10:38:38 pm

Since it looks like this is going to be a very close race, I would suggest a compromise which would be in the mid 1950s, (1954,1955,1956,1957) which would give access to some of the early jets later in the round.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 09, 2007, 10:39:45 pm

Don't know, I think 1950 is more of a challenge. The planes are unknown, the range is shorter so we get a whole different game, it would be totally different from anything this game has ever seen.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 10:42:18 pm

I agree, it´s a cool twist, we will need more bases and terminals too

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 09, 2007, 10:43:02 pm

As long as terminals get slightly more expensive, I don't mind that. They are dirt cheap now.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 10:46:24 pm

we will need more, so, it would be more expensive than the old round, I got a thing about the base limit, can´t we finish early if routes are shorter?, I mean, to fill the max no. of bases and their max no. of destinations available by reach before the new era end?... just a thought, maybe I am underestimating these old but reliable planes and their reach

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 09, 2007, 10:48:43 pm

I think there is a massive underestimating of the old airplanes. There are planes in-game from the start of the round that give you 4500nm+ range, IIRC, which could already get you a transatlantic route. And you should see the challenge involved. It will mean you're gonna have to play a whole different game in order to remain successful until the end of the round.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: blue25 on October 09, 2007, 10:49:39 pm

We need to start small (it's shortly after the depression) :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 10:55:11 pm

I don´t care about the depression, the background is the same than the old round... same passengers

I´d like to see this game reflecting the post 2008 USA depression, the second asian tiger depression, the outbreak of bird flu, WWIII and WWIV, central america invasion of north america and the fall of planet X, let´s hope that the game will stand by then


anyway, I don´t care about the depression, my guess it that it didn´t affect creating new planes, at least on paper and blueprints


it will be a fun game indeed

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 09, 2007, 11:08:20 pm

Quote from: "rodendack"

anyway, I don´t care about the depression, my guess it that it didn´t affect creating new planes, at least on paper and blueprints

It probably did. Mostly, the biggest improvements come in times when the economy is doing well, mostly because there's actually money to research things.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 11:13:01 pm

Quote from: "MrOrange"

Quote from: "rodendack"

anyway, I don´t care about the depression, my guess it that it didn´t affect creating new planes, at least on paper and blueprints

It probably did. Mostly, the biggest improvements come in times when the economy is doing well, mostly because there's actually money to research things.

I think that it affected production, not design or proyects, I will do a research on the airplane industry and that era

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 09, 2007, 11:20:03 pm

We need at least a prototype that flown to add the plane. Blueprints don't fly... or do they?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: ALFC on October 09, 2007, 11:21:17 pm

Quote from: "FWA2500"

why not start mid-decade in 1955? will have the best of both....jets AND the majestic propliners.....

i vote for this!

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: blue25 on October 09, 2007, 11:23:58 pm

DC-1 was a prototype for the fabulous MDs/DCs :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 11:24:44 pm

Quote from: "ALFC"

Quote from: "FWA2500"

why not start mid-decade in 1955? will have the best of both....jets AND the majestic propliners.....

i vote for this!

me too  :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: zvezdaman on October 09, 2007, 11:30:03 pm

but then we'd have to have a decade 2005-2015....if thats oright with the admins :D  :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 09, 2007, 11:48:09 pm

Quote from: "zvezdaman"

but then we'd have to have a decade 2005-2015....if thats oright with the admins :D  :D

We could use the A380 and 787 if we did that.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 11:51:40 pm

Quote from: "sla31"

Quote from: "zvezdaman"

but then we'd have to have a decade 2005-2015....if thats oright with the admins :D  :D

We could use the A380 and 787 if we did that.

you forget the 797, A350, Sukhoi Superjet 100, Bombardier C Series and 747-8 :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 09, 2007, 11:53:26 pm

there are awesome prototypes for 2015 but they are that... prototypes, they would have to make a lot of stuff up or just keep the same DB with just a few more planes, it would be pretty much the same game that passed with the A380 and the 787

besides, the A380 is way too big and everyone would save and buy it, it would be boring

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 09, 2007, 11:55:28 pm

Quote from: "747-300"

you forget the 797, A350, Sukhoi Superjet 100, Bombardier C Series and 747-8 :D

797?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 09, 2007, 11:59:48 pm

Quote from: "dktc"

Quote from: "747-300"

you forget the 797, A350, Sukhoi Superjet 100, Bombardier C Series and 747-8 :D

797?

one day i found a picture of the concept of him, but i don't know where i seen :?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 10, 2007, 12:01:56 am

http://www.machtres.com/797.htm

http://images.google.com/images?hl=es&q=boeing%2B797&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 12:05:13 am

i found, but this page have more 2 concepts:
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/design/q0108.shtml

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 12:29:28 am

Chances are both the 797 and the supersonic project won't materialize anytime soon.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Max2147 on October 10, 2007, 12:34:53 am

Quote from: "dktc"

Chances are both the 797 and the supersonic project won't materialize anytime soon.

We'll see a 797 before long, but it won't be any of those concepts.  The 797 will almost certainly be an all-new 737 replcement using 787 technology.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: zvezdaman on October 10, 2007, 12:36:46 am

if we would have a 2005-2015 decade for the 1955 round my vote is definetly for 1955. only if da mods will alow a 2005-2015 decade :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 12:59:40 am

Almost certain not. The game doesn't go beyond the year in real life.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 01:03:07 am

Quote from: "Max2147"

Quote from: "dktc"

Chances are both the 797 and the supersonic project won't materialize anytime soon.

We'll see a 797 before long, but it won't be any of those concepts.  The 797 will almost certainly be an all-new 737 replcement using 787 technology.

why they not do the 737-1000??? what's the problem??? :?

same thing the Boeing plane after the 797, why not 7107 or 7X7 like the FSX??? :?

well, back to the topic, one more question, when we reset, we will start from the zero or we will start with our actual cash???

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 01:24:49 am

You will have 1 plane (model yet to be determined) and some cash (amount yet to be determined).

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 01:30:32 am

DC-3 and 3m? :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 01:34:57 am

Quote from: "747-300"

DC-3 and 3m? :D

Too big; too much $$.
(At least in my opinion)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 01:36:24 am

Quote from: "747-300"

DC-3 and 3m? :D

sounds good to me :) ....also glad everyone seems to like the idea of starting mid-decade (1955 vs. 1950/1960)......that should not be too hard to code into the game, its just a date that would pass anyway....

Quote from: "dktc"

Too big; too much $$.
(At least in my opinion)

a DC-3 too big??? it was THE plane that almost EVERYONE flew....IMO i think it would be the ideal starter acf...


Fly Douglas Planes! :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 01:37:12 am

DC-3 is very small and 3m isn't so much, we will need some money to buy some planes  :D  :lol:  :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 01:38:51 am

Quote from: "747-300"

DC-3 is very small and 3m isn't so much, we will need some money to buy some planes  :D  :lol:  :D

DC-3 is "above average" in 1950. The planes are dirt cheap then. You could buy like 5 planes and still have $$ for gates with 3 mil. :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 01:42:13 am

Quote from: "dktc"

Quote from: "747-300"

DC-3 is very small and 3m isn't so much, we will need some money to buy some planes  :D  :lol:  :D

DC-3 is "above average" in 1950. The planes are dirt cheap then. You could buy like 5 planes and still have $$ for gates with 3 mil. :roll:

the connies and 377's were bigger, faster, more capable and are from the mid 40s....yes, the DC-3 was large when it was new, but post war, it was just "average" with the introduction of these larger military transport-based propliners...

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 02:01:20 am

look to the signature of FWA2500, this plane isn't above average :D

and a ATR-72-500 is very much bigger than the ATR-42, and he was the default plane, what's the problem with the DC-3?  :D

well, the 3m... 1,5m is fine, can buy 3 planes and still having some cash :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 02:11:05 am

Quote from: "747-300"

and a ATR-72-500 is very much bigger than the ATR-42, and he was the default plane, what's the problem with the DC-3?  :D

Let's say the largest plane in 1950 is less than 1/3 the size of a B747-400ER.
So by proportion, the starting plane should have about 20 seats max (ATR-72-500 has 66 seats).

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 02:17:18 am

Quote from: "747-300"

look to the signature of FWA2500, this plane isn't above average :D

and a ATR-72-500 is very much bigger than the ATR-42, and he was the default plane, what's the problem with the DC-3?  :D

well, the 3m... 1,5m is fine, can buy 3 planes and still having some cash :wink:

indeed.....its normal operating configuration was about 25 seats +/-....thats barely more than the B1900D and a bit less than the Do 328's in modern terms....

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 02:19:41 am

DC-3 only have 24 seats!!!

but DC-2 is only 14 :?

well, if DC-3 isn't an option and the DC-2 is under 20 seats, the DC-2 is a nice option :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 10, 2007, 02:20:23 am

But you have to take into account that this is 1950 and not 2000.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 02:23:09 am

Quote from: "FWA2500"

Quote from: "747-300"

look to the signature of FWA2500, this plane isn't above average :D

and a ATR-72-500 is very much bigger than the ATR-42, and he was the default plane, what's the problem with the DC-3?  :D

well, the 3m... 1,5m is fine, can buy 3 planes and still having some cash :wink:

indeed.....its normal operating configuration was about 25 seats +/-....thats barely more than the B1900D and a bit less than the Do 328's in modern terms....

Do328 have more than 50 seats, DC-3 is less than the half of the Do328 pax capacity :?

Quote from: "sla31"

But you have to take into account that this is 1950 and not 2000.

the DC-3 is the most used civil airplane of the history, what's the problem to start with him??? :?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 02:28:14 am

Do328 = 30-33 seats....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_328

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: asiana on October 10, 2007, 02:29:28 am

Let's start on 1920s.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 02:29:29 am

Quote from: "sla31"

But you have to take into account that this is 1950 and not 2000.

Exactly.

And according to my sources, the DC-3 could seat up to 32, which is the figure in the data base. Granted, that is not the normal configuration, but max everything is the tradition for the game :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 02:30:33 am

Quote from: "747-300"

Quote from: "sla31"

But you have to take into account that this is 1950 and not 2000.

the DC-3 is the most used civil airplane of the history, what's the problem to start with him??? :?

hmm... no problem with starting with a B747-400 as well I guess :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 02:33:34 am

well, then if the DC-3 wont be the starter, what will it be? a Lockheed Lodestar or Electra?

the DC-3 really is the best choice. it is the plane that sooooo many real airlines started with in that time period...it just makes sense.

from wiki:

Quote

After the war, thousands of surplus C-47s were converted to civil service and became the standard equipment of almost all the world's airlines, remaining in front-line service for many years...

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 02:53:16 am

32 why? the max configuration is 8 lines in 1-2 configuration :shock:

Quote from: "dktc"

Quote from: "747-300"

Quote from: "sla31"

But you have to take into account that this is 1950 and not 2000.

the DC-3 is the most used civil airplane of the history, what's the problem to start with him??? :?

hmm... no problem with starting with a B747-400 as well I guess :roll:

we are talking about a DC-3, not a Boeing 377 or a L-1049 :?

well, if the seats are the problem, a DC-2 is the solution, the max seat capacity is 14 :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 02:54:07 am

besides, if we were to start in 1955 as i sugested, the DC-3 would be small...the 707 and most other 1st gen. jets will be out (as well as the much larger prop-liners like the Connies and B377), efectively dwarfing the DC-3 in the way that a 767 dwarfs the ATR-72....

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: LOT 737-300 on October 10, 2007, 02:56:49 am

I don't know, I did read somewhere that the Lusiov Li-2 (Soviet built DC-3s) could fit up to 30 people inside. I would maybe imagine this is more in a military transport role, you know, transporting paratroopers and such, since I guess it would take a pretty stripped interior.

I have a feeling our starting craft is gonna be A) Ju-52, B) PZL P.44 or C) DC-2. For the early 50s, I guess we can sorta consider the DC-3 to be the  equivlant to what the 737 is today.

I know about the large number of DC-3s made. But I guess we'll have to leave historical events and similar things out for now and pretend they didn't happen it appears.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 02:57:28 am

Quote from: "FWA2500"

besides, if we were to start in 1955 as i sugested, the DC-3 would be small...the 707 and most other 1st gen. jets will be out, efectively dwarfing the DC-3 in the way that a 767 dwarfs the ATR-72....

the first 707 flight happened in December 20, 1957, and the production started in 1958, the Comet was the first jet :wink:

Quote from: "LOT 737-300"

I don't know, I did read somewhere that the Lusiov Li-2 (Soviet built DC-3s) could fit up to 30 people inside. I would maybe imagine this is more in a military transport role, you know, transporting paratroopers and such, since I guess it would take a pretty stripped interior.

I have a feeling our starting craft is gonna be A) Ju-52, B) PZL P.44 or C) DC-2. For the early 50s, I guess we can sorta consider the DC-3 to be the  equivlant to what the 737 is today.

I know about the large number of DC-3s made. But I guess we'll have to leave historical events and similar things out for now and pretend they didn't happen it appears.

i vote in A :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Max2147 on October 10, 2007, 03:03:04 am

Quote from: "FWA2500"

besides, if we were to start in 1955 as i sugested, the DC-3 would be small...the 707 and most other 1st gen. jets will be out (as well as the much larger prop-liners like the Connies and B377), efectively dwarfing the DC-3 in the way that a 767 dwarfs the ATR-72....

In 1955 there weren't any jet airliners flying in commercial service.  

- The Comet had entered service in 1952 but had been grounded in 1954, not to re-enter service until 1958.
- The Tu-104 first flew in mid-1955, but didn't enter service until 1956.
- The Caravelle flew slightly before the Tu-104, but didn't enter service until after the Russian jet.
- The Boeing 367-80 flew in 1954, but it was simply a technology demonstrator (NOT the 707 prototype, as many have incorrectly stated).  
- The actual 707 prototype didn't fly until late 1957, and the 707 didn't enter service until 1958.
- The DC-8 didn't fly until 1958, and entered service in 1959.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 03:03:45 am

was only using the 707 as the example because its more popular....

Comet
Avro Canada Jetliner
Tu-104
B707
DC-8
CV880

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Max2147 on October 10, 2007, 03:05:29 am

Quote from: "FWA2500"

was only using the 707 as the example because its more popular....

Comet
Avro Canada Jetliner
Tu-104
B707
DC-8
CV880

None of which were in service in 1955.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Max2147 on October 10, 2007, 03:08:44 am

I don't think a DC-3 ever held 32 people.  A C-47 might have in military configuration.

If you're going to go with maximum people a plane can carry then you have to make the 747-200 carry 1,122 people.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 03:09:26 am

max said all, the Comet had entered in service in 52, but had been grounded in 54, no jet entered in service before 1958 :wink:

Quote from: "Max2147"

I don't think a DC-3 ever held 32 people.  A C-47 might have in military configuration.

If you're going to go with maximum people a plane can carry then you have to make the 747-200 carry 1,122 people.

1122 with the baby???

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: FWA2500 on October 10, 2007, 03:10:42 am

Quote from: "Max2147"

I don't think a DC-3 ever held 32 people.  A C-47 might have in military configuration.

ya, and most of the time when it did, they exited the plane mid-flight....i doubt our pax. want to do that :lol:

----

and why is everyone hating on the prop-liners? have you never met one in person (static desplays and in museums dont count)? they are pure magic......yes, i love jets too, but man...we would be nowhere without the great radial engined airlines.....

radials were THE standard engine of the time period (50s-mid/early 60s)....jets were rare and something extreamly special to see, like how the JT8D's were THE standard powerplant of the 70s and 80s with the SSTs (Concorde and Tu-144) being the rare specialty.....

then again, i work at an airport and am in contact with piston powered planes constantly which gives me a great appriciation for props....

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 03:14:48 am

-sigh-

Fact is I don't care!

This is a poll for when we start out of 2 options. Definitely not a poll as to what we start with. The more you guys bug me (esp. the ones who pm me about it), the more likely you would get a DH.84 or DH.89 for starter :evil:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Steeler83 on October 10, 2007, 03:16:56 am

I say we start in 1960.  Reasons were already discussed as to why.  I am just agreeing with them.  I'd like to get my hands on 727s, DC9s and 707s sooner than later anyway... :-):-)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 03:19:08 am

Quote from: "dktc"

-sigh-

Fact is I don't care!

This is a poll for when we start out of 2 options. Definitely not a poll as to what we start with. The more you guys bug me (esp. the ones who pm me about it), the more likely you would get a DH.84 or DH.89 for starter :evil:

i will stop from talk about the DC-3 now.... :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 10, 2007, 03:24:10 am

btw, are cathering services and prices ready for this coming round?  :)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: marcelvinicius on October 10, 2007, 03:24:22 am

Starts at 1950 with no planes as gift... give us the money and each one can decide what to do with it...
we dont decide to open an airline because we won a airplane... we decide because we have money to do it...

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Boho on October 10, 2007, 03:28:47 am

They are going to have to decide soon, so no point in pestering just to find out a couple hours earlier.  Whatever plane we get is what we will use.  :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Air Elbonia on October 10, 2007, 03:55:44 am

Quote from: "rodendack"

btw, are cathering services and prices ready for this coming round?  :)

Yes, full details of what is and isn't ready will be released in its own thread.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: rodendack on October 10, 2007, 04:05:42 am

great! we want to be pure class... if we can  8)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: pTr on October 10, 2007, 04:58:37 am

If we start in 1950s, when all the heavy loaders aren't in service yet, we're gonna have to have maybe 3 times or 4 mores the amount of aircrafts to manage to keep up with the airport's traffic. So wouldn't this cause some kind of problem for the server?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: tomauer on October 10, 2007, 07:25:49 am

I don't think the demand if airports will result us putting numerous aircraft on the route multiple times, But what your saying could happen.

Don't think it would be fun playing on just 1 route though  :twisted:

Im back :)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 10, 2007, 12:47:06 pm

^ Tom.. welcome back  :D ..

Please check the USG forums before Nexus takes over your spot  :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: blue25 on October 10, 2007, 01:12:38 pm

Quote from: "MrOrange"

:lol: I kinda like the idea :) Make them buy a car and rent slots at a cliff, it might work out pretty nice.

Yes. Stephen would be on the first "flight". :lol: He sould test if it works. :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 10, 2007, 01:32:46 pm

So are we starting in the 50's or 60's.. looks like the 50's won.. When does the Vote Poll end?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: MrOrange on October 10, 2007, 01:40:33 pm

When the round starts, I guess. Anyway, the difference between 1950 and 1960 is mostly something like 8 votes in favor of 1950, and I don't think that will change a lot.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 02:55:25 pm

The admin team is operating on the context of starting in 1950, at least the plane choosing part is :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 10, 2007, 03:01:53 pm

may i have the aircraft list?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 03:04:34 pm

aircraft list (http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_all_aircraft.php)

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 10, 2007, 03:13:04 pm

I meant aircrafts for 1950-1960

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 03:16:27 pm

Quote from: "Jps"

I meant aircrafts for 1950-1960

Don't be lazy. Work for what you want, young man! :P

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 10, 2007, 03:22:56 pm

Quote from: "dktc"

Quote from: "Jps"

I meant aircrafts for 1950-1960

Don't be lazy. Work for what you want, young man! :P

Would you mind giving me the aircraft list for 1950-60?  :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 03:25:05 pm

Quote from: "Jps"

Would you mind giving me the aircraft list for 1950-60?  :wink:

I would :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 10, 2007, 03:26:58 pm

Quote from: "Jps"

Quote from: "dktc"

Quote from: "Jps"

I meant aircrafts for 1950-1960

Don't be lazy. Work for what you want, young man! :P

Would you mind giving me the aircraft list for 1950-60?  :wink:

Seriously it gives you all the years when they enter service.  It's not that big of deal.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: icanfly on October 10, 2007, 03:35:23 pm

All existing flights remains or all restart from zero???

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 03:42:51 pm

Quote from: "icanfly"

All existing flights remains or all restart from zero???

Everthing are reset in a "reset" (gosh... this question has been asked so many times I wonder do players only play one game....).

Everything back to "nil" (except your players' id and airline name, which you get to keep), then you would be given a plane, 2 gates at your chosen base, and a certain amount of cash at the time you first log in.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Danny on October 10, 2007, 03:45:55 pm

We should also delete all airlines and have everyone re register with 1 registration per 1 IP allowed only.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 10, 2007, 03:46:04 pm

my ID is going to be 5000  :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 03:48:52 pm

Quote from: "Danny"

We should also delete all airlines and have everyone re register with 1 registration per 1 IP allowed only.

I registration per IP would not work.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Jps on October 10, 2007, 04:02:03 pm

people can use proxy  :D

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: pseudoswede on October 10, 2007, 04:03:50 pm

Quote from: "dktc"

then you would be given a plane, 2 gates at your chosen base, and a certain amount of cash at the time you first log in.

Do we have to rent 2 more gates in order to build a terminal at our starting base?

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 04:06:04 pm

Quote from: "pseudoswede"

Quote from: "dktc"

then you would be given a plane, 2 gates at your chosen base, and a certain amount of cash at the time you first log in.

Do we have to rent 2 more gates in order to build a terminal at our starting base?

I would believe so... but it shouldn't be a problem at the time you have the cash to build the terminal.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Pacific on October 10, 2007, 04:46:48 pm

Quote from: "dktc"

Quote from: "Danny"

We should also delete all airlines and have everyone re register with 1 registration per 1 IP allowed only.

I registration per IP would not work.

Netvigator, a popular Hong Kong ISP uses dynamic IP as standard.  This is true for many other ISPs.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 05:01:10 pm

yes... and for certain places (cities like Hong Kong or Tokyo), it is not uncommon for friends to get together in each others' houses and get online. And Singapore is installing public wireless network I believe, so that would prove to be even more challenging.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Hampo on October 10, 2007, 05:02:08 pm

My IP changed every time i log in as im using AOL, so its nearly impossible to ban me  :lol:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 05:24:21 pm

Quote from: "dktc"

aircraft list (http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_all_aircraft.php)

why have planes that production ends before the game starts, like 1945??? :?

the F-27 Cargo is with the date wrong, i think that is 1953 to 1973, and not 953 to 973, right???
Argosy 650 Cargo too.... is 1959 to 1979 instead of 959 to 979, right???

Quote from: "dktc"

yes... and for certain places (cities like Hong Kong or Tokyo), it is not uncommon for friends to get together in each others' houses and get online. And Singapore is installing public wireless network I believe, so that would prove to be even more challenging.

you forget brothers that only have one computer.... :roll:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: dktc on October 10, 2007, 05:27:26 pm

We have planes before the game start because that is a whole list of planes in the database. The plane would appear only within the years / rounds they belong. I just added those really really old planes because I have the data. I believe in doing things all in one shot.

As for the cargos, we don't have cargo feature in game right now. The cargo planes don't have pax seats. So, the "1" is omitted to get them in the database but prevent them from being available.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: 747-300 on October 10, 2007, 05:32:54 pm

understood :wink:

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: marcelvinicius on October 10, 2007, 05:50:46 pm

Quote from: "747-300"

understanded :wink:

understood

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: bendailey on October 10, 2007, 10:40:29 pm

If not too late to get my opinion in, I would have to vote for 1960.  Although the suggestion of 1955 seems to have merit as well.....

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: papidis on October 11, 2007, 12:08:19 am

Guys, 1950, 1960, mid's 50's, just put the game to run AGAIN PLEASE...............I just had make my register and started 2 days before, thought man this is really cool, had buy my first airplane and....what? what? "LOGIN IS NOT AVAILABLE NOW"

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: sla31 on October 11, 2007, 12:11:17 am

The game is reseting right now.  It will be open again whenever the admins are done changeing things around and then you'll have 10 game years to play to your hearts content in the 1950's.

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: papidis on October 11, 2007, 12:22:17 am

I was just kidding, just can't wait.....

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: zvezdaman on October 11, 2007, 12:23:56 am

woohoo

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Pacific on October 11, 2007, 12:24:45 am

The game's actually still running!  I've magically risen two ranks!

Hope the stuff's done *relatively* soon.  Bring on the DC-7Cs! :lol:

Edit: All the gates and aircraft are gone now - the game is indeed resetting!  Good job guys!

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: juancho on October 11, 2007, 03:56:50 am

Yeah, clap clap clap for bendaily siggy

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: Air Elbonia on October 11, 2007, 04:54:46 am

Quote from: "Pacific"

The game's actually still running!  I've magically risen two ranks!

Hope the stuff's done *relatively* soon.  Bring on the DC-7Cs! :lol:

Edit: All the gates and aircraft are gone now - the game is indeed resetting!  Good job guys!

Waiting on big StephenM to finish his stuff and finalize the reset.  everything should be ready otherwise (at least that i know of).

Title: Have your say, What year do we start in?
Post by: hpscot08 on October 11, 2007, 05:09:07 am

Ya, I think we're all ready. Just waiting on Mr. Stephen to wake up. If only I could call all the way to Dublin to get him ;)